ATSC Converter

Someone mentioned an inexpensive digital to analog TV signal
converter.

If analog is available why would anyone want to convert digital to
analog?

Where do you get these devices?


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Citizen Bob ) wrote:
: Someone mentioned an inexpensive digital to analog TV signal
: converter.

: If analog is available why would anyone want to convert digital to
: analog?

PBS carries programs on their digital channel not available on
their analog channel. I can't think of any other reason for the
converter,

Cass

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:32:41 GMT, (Citizen Bob) wrote:

Someone mentioned an inexpensive digital to analog TV signal
converter.

If analog is available why would anyone want to convert digital to
analog?

To watch digital OTA channels, which is all there will be after 2/09,
on old analog sets.

Where do you get these devices?

Never seen one yet, but should be coming out very soon. Hey, do new
VCRs/DVRs have their own ATSC tuners - and analog outputs?

J.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:45:50 GMT, JXStern
wrote:

do new VCRs/DVRs have their own ATSC tuners - and analog outputs?

It would seem so. I have seen them on the new Polaroid DVDR:

http://tinyurl.com/yvloe3/

Does anyone know why this unit only supports 480p? I suppose it's
because it takes in 1080i from the ATSC sourceand necks it down to
480p to get it to record on the MPEG2 DVD format and then sends it out
an HDMI cable.

Is that anyone's idea of High Definition TV?


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"Citizen Bob" wrote in message
...
Someone mentioned an inexpensive digital to analog TV signal
converter.

If analog is available why would anyone want to convert digital to
analog?

If you have a standard definition television the resultant signal from an
ATSC tuner outputting 480i looks far better than the NTSC SD analogue
counterpart. In addition if you have an older 16:9 SD television (I do,
Pioneer Elite 1009W) you are able to take advantage of the anamorphic
properties of the ATSC signal thereby preserving about 30% of your
resolution. It may not be HD, but it's a huge improvement over OTA SD
analogue. As another poster mentions, you also can take advantage of
sub-channels which most PBS stations offer and a number of other
broadcasters with everything from secondary programming to weather and
traffic information. If you can find an ATSC tuner for a reasonable price
it's really a worthwhile upgrade for dramatically improving you OTA
experience to get the most resolution and versatility out of your SD
television.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:34:11 -0700, "Charles Tomaras"
wrote:

If you have a standard definition television the resultant signal from an
ATSC tuner outputting 480i looks far better than the NTSC SD analogue
counterpart. In addition if you have an older 16:9 SD television (I do,
Pioneer Elite 1009W) you are able to take advantage of the anamorphic
properties of the ATSC signal thereby preserving about 30% of your
resolution. It may not be HD, but it's a huge improvement over OTA SD
analogue. As another poster mentions, you also can take advantage of
sub-channels which most PBS stations offer and a number of other
broadcasters with everything from secondary programming to weather and
traffic information. If you can find an ATSC tuner for a reasonable price
it's really a worthwhile upgrade for dramatically improving you OTA
experience to get the most resolution and versatility out of your SD
television.

Interesting. It appears there is a no-man's land between pure DS and
pure HD.

I realize this is a stupid question but I have to ask it anyway,
because after all this information overload, I am starting to get into
the cofused part of learning. That's when the pattern recognition gets
overwhelmed and the mind is compelled to put even stupid associations
together as it tries to integrate all the new information.

Let's say I buy an ATSC tuner converter and connect it to my Big Mutha
yagi antenna. It will presumably take the ATSC signals and add them to
the NTSC signals and output one overlapped NTSC signal which my SD
NTSC equipment can handle.

How do I tune to these new-found channels in my NTSC DVDR and my SD
TV? Presumably they are just another analog signal with a specific
channel number that is not used by an analog channel.

Is this correct as far as it goes?



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In article ,
(Citizen Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:34:11 -0700, "Charles Tomaras"
wrote:

If you have a standard definition television the resultant signal from an
ATSC tuner outputting 480i looks far better than the NTSC SD analogue
counterpart. In addition if you have an older 16:9 SD television (I do,
Pioneer Elite 1009W) you are able to take advantage of the anamorphic
properties of the ATSC signal thereby preserving about 30% of your
resolution. It may not be HD, but it's a huge improvement over OTA SD
analogue. As another poster mentions, you also can take advantage of
sub-channels which most PBS stations offer and a number of other
broadcasters with everything from secondary programming to weather and
traffic information. If you can find an ATSC tuner for a reasonable price
it's really a worthwhile upgrade for dramatically improving you OTA
experience to get the most resolution and versatility out of your SD
television.

Interesting. It appears there is a no-man's land between pure DS and
pure HD.

I realize this is a stupid question but I have to ask it anyway,
because after all this information overload, I am starting to get into
the cofused part of learning. That's when the pattern recognition gets
overwhelmed and the mind is compelled to put even stupid associations
together as it tries to integrate all the new information.

Let's say I buy an ATSC tuner converter and connect it to my Big Mutha
yagi antenna. It will presumably take the ATSC signals and add them to
the NTSC signals and output one overlapped NTSC signal which my SD
NTSC equipment can handle.

How do I tune to these new-found channels in my NTSC DVDR and my SD
TV? Presumably they are just another analog signal with a specific
channel number that is not used by an analog channel.

Is this correct as far as it goes?

The output could be the familiar channel 3/4 modulated signal, composite
video, S-Video, or component video. My guess is that the cheap boxes
will use the Ch. 3/4 modulated signal.

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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:07:24 -0400, Tom Stiller
wrote:

The output could be the familiar channel 3/4 modulated signal, composite
video, S-Video, or component video. My guess is that the cheap boxes
will use the Ch. 3/4 modulated signal.

That implies that tuning is done on the ATSC box and fed to 3/4 RF
signal.

So this device is not just some simple converter but an actual tuner
in the sense of a radio tuner. It would likely be cheaper just to get
a DVDR with built in ATSC and be done with it.

What kind of DVDR do you need to capture the full digital HDTV signal
to the recording medium (eg, HDD) so you can play it to your TV in its
full blown digital HDTV glory? I can't find any DVDRs in HD - only
players.


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"Citizen Bob" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:34:11 -0700, "Charles Tomaras"
wrote:

How do I tune to these new-found channels in my NTSC DVDR and
my SD
TV?

You don't. You tune them into your DVDR with ATSC tuner and
pass
the video to your TV.

Presumably they are just another analog signal with a specific
channel number that is not used by an analog channel.

Correct. Most are UHF frequencies assigned to digital
channels.

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(Citizen Bob) wrote:

Someone mentioned an inexpensive digital to analog TV signal
converter.

If analog is available why would anyone want to convert digital to
analog?

Where do you get these devices?

The cheapies are on the way. Happened across this today:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NW7A2G/...lnewscom915-20

Coby DTV-140 ATSC High Definition Set Up Box -- $89.99


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John Briggs Phoenix, Arizona, USA)