CRT HDTV

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:33:52 -0400, "Richard Harison"
wrote:

Undoubtedly. I got mine on eBay--gently used $550
in Sonys alone there is the 30XS955 the 34XS955 and the XBR 960
If there is anything still on eBay...it would have to be within driving
distance for obvious reasons

Up until a month ago Amazon was selling (direct from them) a Sony
KV34XBR970. They wanted an even $1000 for the thing, delivery was extra
(about $170), and it would take 6 weeks to ship. How they were getting
stock is unknown. But now it appears that it's gone, not even listed:-(

I would say the short-lived golden era of 16:9 CRT's is over. Just as they
were getting good, they were knocked out of the market by LCD's.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:18:49 -0000, Blueberry Waffle
wrote:

Up until a month ago Amazon was selling (direct from them) a Sony
KV34XBR970. They wanted an even $1000 for the thing, delivery was extra
(about $170), and it would take 6 weeks to ship. How they were getting
stock is unknown. But now it appears that it's gone, not even listed:-(

I saw that. There is one used unit somewhere - a refurbished unit.

I would say the short-lived golden era of 16:9 CRT's is over. Just as they
were getting good, they were knocked out of the market by LCD's.

And just to spite the *******s in the LCD lobby who are responsible
for this, if I can't get a CRT HDTV, I will get a DLP even though the
smallest is a bit larger than I need.


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"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
--Benjamin Franklin

B&H, who are an impeccable online store with brick and mortar store(s)
in NYC have a demo of the samsung model for $395, but shipping might
make BestBuy a better bet, though I would always prefer independent
over box chain store. But, it is not my money. I'd buy one but the
weight is a concern if I ever want to move it or it breaks and needs
to go back to the store. That's why I'm holding out until good front
projectors get cheaper. BTW I started a thread on them yesterday, so
if you know anything about them, please post to that thread.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:37:48 -0700, vivabenfica
wrote:


to go back to the store. That's why I'm holding out until good front
projectors get cheaper.

They are dropping in price and slowly coming into range. I have an
unused room that is begging to become a dedicated home theater. My
next TV may not be a TV.

--
Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, TX
http://davidclary.com

Dave wrote:
In article ixmin.net, Blueberry Waffle wrote:

Up until a month ago Amazon was selling (direct from them) a Sony
KV34XBR970. They wanted an even $1000 for the thing, delivery was extra
(about $170), and it would take 6 weeks to ship. How they were getting
stock is unknown. But now it appears that it's gone, not even listed:-(

I would say the short-lived golden era of 16:9 CRT's is over. Just as they
were getting good, they were knocked out of the market by LCD's.

A colleague recently got one for $600 new at cc. Guess that window
of opportunity is now closed. And yes, CRT's are soon to be
history.

I like my crt rptv. It looks better then the new flat screen tvs
Now that I got a hd tivo the picture looks even better. IIVO HD
does not compress ota hd. So it looks better then cable or sat.

Citizen Bob wrote:
I decided to start a separate thread on this topic.

I have done the usual surveys and I get the impression that this type
of system is about to disappear.

Please comment on CRT HDTV with digital signal tuning and 720p.



I have been using a Sanyo HT32744 32" 4:3 CRT HDTV for 2.5 years just
OTA and with my laptop (DVI) with NO problems. Don't know if you can
still get them. It is 1080i but 720p both OTA and over HDMI look great.
I just got a new Pannisonic DVD recorder (DMK-EZ47K) with a digital ATSC
tunner and my older Sanyo tuner works just a good. If I had the $$$ at
the time, I would of got a plasma as I think they are mush closer to CRT
then LCDs are.
-Mike

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:13:21 -0400, Mike Ray wrote:

I have been using a Sanyo HT32744 32" 4:3 CRT HDTV

This is something I do not understand. How can a 4:3 aspect screen be
considered HDTV? I would have thought the screen would have to be 16:9
to be considered HDTV?

Samsung has a 27" CRT HDTV but it too is 4:3. Why pay $500 for 480p
resolution, which is not HDTV but EDTV?

And this upscaling trickery reminds me of "garbage in, garbage out".

I used to watch sports a lot, and if I still did I would undoubtedly
have gotten into HDTV. But I do not watch sports anymore and all I
watch are what commercial broadcasters pass off as "dramas" and
"comedies" plus a couple spectacular shows like Battlestar Galactica.
But one or two shows per 3 months of the year is not enough for me to
drop a couple grand on HDTV.

I know the manufacturers are gouging the consumer. You can get a 16:9
19" CRT HDTV for $250, which is reasonable for a CRT TV. But if you do
the math you discover that the height of the picture is actually less
than SD TV.

If you increase the screen size by as much as 4" to a 23" (which
preserves the height of SD TV), you pay almost twice as much. The
greedy manufacturers are forcing you to pay a ridiculous premium for
next to nothing.

So when are they going to cut the crap and start pricing HDTV in the
smaller sizes (37" and under) so ordinary consumers can afford to make
the investment. There are only so many sports fans willing to shell
out thousands for their hobby.

The good news is that prices have already dropped substantially. My
son, an avid sports fan, bought 3 HDTV of various sizes to put all
over his house so he would never miss a play. He tells me that the
price for his sets is now about half what he paid a year or two ago,

If we can extrapolate that trend into the future, then maybe we can
get the smaller screen HDTVs at a price we can justify.

Actually there is one drama that would look great in HD, and that's
24. When Jack goes on a tear, all frakking hell breaks lose, so you
want WS HD to display every body part as it blows up.


--

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
--Benjamin Franklin

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:46:12 +0000, Citizen Bob wrote:

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:13:21 -0400, Mike Ray wrote:

I have been using a Sanyo HT32744 32" 4:3 CRT HDTV

This is something I do not understand. How can a 4:3 aspect screen be
considered HDTV? I would have thought the screen would have to be 16:9
to be considered HDTV?

It just has to have an HDTV resolution that it will support. That's
generally means 1280x1024 for a 4"3 screen. That will display native 720p
HDTV.

Samsung has a 27" CRT HDTV but it too is 4:3. Why pay $500 for 480p
resolution, which is not HDTV but EDTV?

I wouldn't.

And this upscaling trickery reminds me of "garbage in, garbage out".

Video is upscaled to fit the screen resolution. Otherwise the picture
would be letterboxed and small.

I used to watch sports a lot, and if I still did I would undoubtedly
have gotten into HDTV. But I do not watch sports anymore and all I watch
are what commercial broadcasters pass off as "dramas" and "comedies"
plus a couple spectacular shows like Battlestar Galactica. But one or
two shows per 3 months of the year is not enough for me to drop a couple
grand on HDTV.

All the shows in the world wouldn't be enough for me to drop that much on.
I did spend $299.99 for a 27" LCD HDTV on sale though. And it was money
well spent.

I know the manufacturers are gouging the consumer. You can get a 16:9
19" CRT HDTV for $250, which is reasonable for a CRT TV. But if you do
the math you discover that the height of the picture is actually less
than SD TV.

I've brought this up more than once.:-)

If you increase the screen size by as much as 4" to a 23" (which
preserves the height of SD TV), you pay almost twice as much. The greedy
manufacturers are forcing you to pay a ridiculous premium for next to
nothing.

TV manufacturers had a big part of the ATSC spec. I'm sure letting them
make a 32" TV for 20% less material than a 4:3 set had something to do
with the final specs. Stupid public doesn't know the difference.

So when are they going to cut the crap and start pricing HDTV in the
smaller sizes (37" and under) so ordinary consumers can afford to make
the investment. There are only so many sports fans willing to shell out
thousands for their hobby.

There's 32" LCD HDTV's under $500 now and 37" sets under $800.

Actually there is one drama that would look great in HD, and that's 24.
When Jack goes on a tear, all frakking hell breaks lose, so you want WS
HD to display every body part as it blows up.

Yes, it does look good in HD, and so do all the other shows. Even the SD
reality shows look better in digital.

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:12:34 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote:

I used to watch sports a lot, and if I still did I would undoubtedly
have gotten into HDTV. But I do not watch sports anymore and all I watch
are what commercial broadcasters pass off as "dramas" and "comedies"
plus a couple spectacular shows like Battlestar Galactica. But one or
two shows per 3 months of the year is not enough for me to drop a couple
grand on HDTV.

All the shows in the world wouldn't be enough for me to drop that much on.

Sports fans are a special breed. I must admit that watching football
on my son's 63" Mitsubishi DLP was an awesome experience.

I did spend $299.99 for a 27" LCD HDTV on sale though. And it was money
well spent.

Where did you get that? I want one.

I know the manufacturers are gouging the consumer. You can get a 16:9
19" CRT HDTV for $250, which is reasonable for a CRT TV. But if you do
the math you discover that the height of the picture is actually less
than SD TV.

I've brought this up more than once.:-)

It gets even more complicated. I am going to post a new thread on this
issue, as it pertains to CRT HDTV warranties. I will entitle it

"Viewing Format and Warranty"

There's 32" LCD HDTV's under $500 now

Too frakking high. I want $250 for a 32".

and 37" sets under $800.

A bit too big for my purposes. I can handle anywhere from 27" to 32"
in WS format.

Yes, it does look good in HD, and so do all the other shows. Even the SD
reality shows look better in digital.

Assuming you run 480p.

But what viewing format? (See separate thread).


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"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
--Benjamin Franklin

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:36:51 +0000, Citizen Bob wrote:

I did spend $299.99 for a 27" LCD HDTV on sale though. And it was money
well spent.

Where did you get that? I want one.

CompUSA in March. Olevia model 427V, but double checking my records it was
$399. I think you can get it for less now if you shop around. 527V is the
same only in black. These models have probably been replaced with newer
models by now.

http://www.olevia.com/

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