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Old September 8th 07, 03:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
tony sayer
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In article , Andy Hall
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On 2007-09-08 12:12:14 +0100, tony sayer said:

NE1 any experience of getting a windows PC to boot from a flash card or
flash type memory at all?...


Yes you can do it most easily with a compact flash card or equivalent
plus an adaptor that emulates an IDE interface.

However, this may not be very long lived. The problem is that the
Windows monitor writes temporary and other files all over the place and
generally makes a mess. Flash memory devices often have a limited
number of allowable read/write cycles before going tits up.


Right I had heard that was a possibility!. Mind you disks can go tits up
after time...

The technique is much easier to do with operating systems. For
example, with Linux, one can mount all of the filesystems bar one as
read-only. During boot, a Ramdisk is created and files that need to
be RW or temporary files can be put on that. I have this working in
a little dedicated, embedded machine used as a terminal server. It
even has a watchdog timer to reboot if ever needed, but it hasn't been
so far in two years.

If you want to do an embedded type of application, there are some
products around optimised with what's needed. I've used Advantech
stuff a few times with good results.




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  #42  
Old September 8th 07, 03:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Andy Hall
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On 2007-09-08 14:05:34 +0100, tony sayer said:

In article , Andy Hall
scribeth thus
On 2007-09-08 12:12:14 +0100, tony sayer said:

NE1 any experience of getting a windows PC to boot from a flash card or
flash type memory at all?...


Yes you can do it most easily with a compact flash card or equivalent
plus an adaptor that emulates an IDE interface.

However, this may not be very long lived. The problem is that the
Windows monitor writes temporary and other files all over the place and
generally makes a mess. Flash memory devices often have a limited
number of allowable read/write cycles before going tits up.


Right I had heard that was a possibility!. Mind you disks can go tits up
after time...


Yes they can, but take a look at the spec sheets for typical flash
memory devices.

Some is as good as 1M cycles, other only about 10,000.





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Old September 8th 07, 04:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Roderick Stewart
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In article , Ivan wrote:

Yes I was thinking that something along the lines of a 4 GB SD card becoming*
the equivalent of a much higher quality VHS 4 hour tape, but with some kind*
of LP option for maybe 8 hours of standard VHS quality.


No need to assume they'll stop at 4GB.

It would be a simple matter of an onscreen menu asking if the user would*
like to transfer program/s to card.. So all it needs now then is for*
Topfield and Humax to get their heads together and incorporate an optional*
standardised card slot on their new models, I couldn't see it adding much*
more than a tenner in the way of additional hardware.


I have a Panasonic recorder that already has a slot for SD cards, but it seems
it can only be used for still JPEG pictures. I agree it should only be a matter
of software to make it possible to record video on it, because the digits are
already there.

Rod.

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Old September 8th 07, 06:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Huge wrote:

I've watched Steven Soderburgh's "Solaris" 4 or 5 times in the last 3 months.


In the name of $DEITY why? It's the dumbed down for merkins version.

I've watched Solaris and Stalker several times in the last year, and
it's well worth doing. Kagemusha as well.
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Old September 8th 07, 07:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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In message , Roderick
Stewart writes
In article , Ivan wrote:

Yes I was thinking that something along the lines of a 4 GB SD card becoming*
the equivalent of a much higher quality VHS 4 hour tape, but with some kind*
of LP option for maybe 8 hours of standard VHS quality.


No need to assume they'll stop at 4GB.


Try 64 gig ...

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32321/135/



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Old September 8th 07, 07:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
stuart noble
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Steve Firth wrote:
Huge wrote:

I've watched Steven Soderburgh's "Solaris" 4 or 5 times in the last 3 months.


In the name of $DEITY why? It's the dumbed down for merkins version.

I've watched Solaris and Stalker several times in the last year, and
it's well worth doing. Kagemusha as well.


All 3 score well on IMDb (IME the most reliable guide to what's worth
watching). Time for some torrents maybe.
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Old September 8th 07, 08:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Steve Firth
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Huge wrote:

On 2007-09-08, Steve Firth wrote:
Huge wrote:

I've watched Steven Soderburgh's "Solaris" 4 or 5 times in the last
3 months.


In the name of $DEITY why? It's the dumbed down for merkins version.

I've watched Solaris and Stalker several times in the last year, and
it's well worth doing.


No it isn't. Tarkovsky is pretentious, overated crap. Tarkovsky's Solaris
is one of the two movies I've ever walked out of, and despite buying the
DVD, my brain fell out through the mind-numbing boredom of it all. Jesus,
learn to edit. You could hack the first 40 minutes off with no loss
whatsoever. And Stalker's just as bad.


But they have the advantage that they don't feature Clooney. And I still
like them, as they are, uncut.

Kagemusha as well.


OTOH, Kurosawa was a genius and Kagemusha is *wonderful*.


No argument there.
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Old September 8th 07, 08:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Clive George
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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NE1 any experience of getting a windows PC to boot from a flash card or
flash type memory at all?...


USB sticks? Somebody at work was experimenting with doing that for windows
installs.

cheers,
clive

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Old September 8th 07, 08:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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In message , Huge
writes
On 2007-09-07, Clive George wrote:
"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2007-09-07, Clive George wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

How do you archive material when the disk is full? What happens when
the disk fails and you lose everything as you were unable to archive
all your favourite material?

Archive? What's the point of that then? It's just telly - seen it once,
no
need to see it again.

Good Lhord. What a barbarian. I watch some movies over and over again.


Hmm. I'm more amenable to seeing things more than once than my wife, but
I've still never gone for the collection of films-which-you've-seen which
seem to be so popular.


I've watched Steven Soderburgh's "Solaris" 4 or 5 times in the last 3 months.
Plus listening to the soundtrack music at least once a week. And I stopped
counting once I'd seen '2001' some 47 times.

And then there's "Hero". My wife and I have watched that 2 or 3 times since I
recorded it. I must burn a DVD.

Burn them all and have done with it

Couldn't watch more than 5 mins of Hero


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Old September 8th 07, 08:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
raden
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In message , Steve Firth
writes
Huge wrote:

I've watched Steven Soderburgh's "Solaris" 4 or 5 times in the last 3 months.


In the name of $DEITY why? It's the dumbed down for merkins version.

I've watched Solaris and Stalker several times in the last year, and
it's well worth doing. Kagemusha as well.


The uncut version was on the other night


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