help - loading trouble on video recorder

On Sep 6, 9:23 pm, OldBill wrote:
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded

Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder.

How do you archive material when the disk is full? What happens when
the disk fails and you lose everything as you were unable to archive
all your favourite material?

I suggest you keep the DVD recorder.

MBQ

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:39:49 -0700, "
wrote:

How do you archive material when the disk is full? What happens when
the disk fails and you lose everything as you were unable to archive
all your favourite material?

I suggest you keep the DVD recorder.

I have a Toppy and a DVD recorder, but when I want to archive
anything, I just copy it to my PC via USB, where I can watch it at
broadcast quality. The DVD recorder is just going to waste.
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In article , OldBill
scribeth thus
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded
Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder. You'll be amazed at the difference in functionality.
Can you still get VHS tapes anywhere except charity shops?
In fact I still have VCR which cost £400 in 1997 but I haven't used it
for 2 years as the quality is no longer acceptable.

Should clean the heads then Do bear in mind that should you need to
take that recording elsewhere or send it to someone, its a bit tedious
sending a hard drive!.

Course hard disk recording is still electro mechanical and hard drives
can and do fail;!....
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , OldBill
scribeth thus
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded
Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder. You'll be amazed at the difference in functionality.
Can you still get VHS tapes anywhere except charity shops?
In fact I still have VCR which cost £400 in 1997 but I haven't used it
for 2 years as the quality is no longer acceptable.

Should clean the heads then Do bear in mind that should you need to
take that recording elsewhere or send it to someone, its a bit tedious
sending a hard drive!.

Course hard disk recording is still electro mechanical and hard drives
can and do fail;!....

Flash memory devices are steadily increasing in capacity whilst the price
has dropped dramatically (SD cards now up to 8 GB) However I do have to
admit not being up to speed on these kind of developments, so I'd like to
ask the more knowledgeable on this group 'is there any major technical
reason why some kind of memory card can't became a De Facto interchangeable
standard on millions of PVR's around the world, maybe coupled with MPEG4?.
especially as it's almost certain that not only will memory capacity
continue to improve but prices will also plummet.


--
Tony Sayer

In article , Ivan wrote:
Flash memory devices are steadily increasing in capacity whilst the price*
has dropped dramatically (SD cards now up to 8 GB) However I do have to*
admit not being up to speed on these kind of developments, so I'd like to*
ask the more knowledgeable on this group 'is there any major technical*
reason why some kind of memory card can't became a De Facto interchangeable*
standard on millions of PVR's around the world, maybe coupled with MPEG4?.*
especially as it's almost certain that not only will memory capacity*
continue to improve but prices will also plummet.

SD already is a sort of de facto standard for storing material on all sorts of
gadgets, mostly pocket ones, though I suspect it is used a lot less frequently
for exchange of data between gadgets, because mostly people just want to swap
the occasional snapshot, and they can use bluetooth or MMS for that. For
swapping stuff between computers, the USB dongle drive seems pretty popular.
Whatever is cheapest and easiest to use will always be the one most people
use, and in five years time there will be something completely different, and
Sony will invent their own incompatible version of the same thing, then a
smaller one that needs an adaptor, and so on.

Rod.

"Andrew" wrote...
" wrote:

How do you archive material when the disk is full? What happens when
the disk fails and you lose everything as you were unable to archive
all your favourite material?

I suggest you keep the DVD recorder.

I have a Toppy and a DVD recorder, but when I want to archive
anything, I just copy it to my PC via USB, where I can watch it at
broadcast quality. The DVD recorder is just going to waste.

Ditto for me, changing "Toppy" to "Hummy". I make DVDs on the computer
and use my DVD recorder mainly just as a player.

Matti

Ivan wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , OldBill
scribeth thus
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded
Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder. You'll be amazed at the difference in functionality.
Can you still get VHS tapes anywhere except charity shops?
In fact I still have VCR which cost £400 in 1997 but I haven't used it
for 2 years as the quality is no longer acceptable.

Should clean the heads then Do bear in mind that should you need to
take that recording elsewhere or send it to someone, its a bit tedious
sending a hard drive!.

Course hard disk recording is still electro mechanical and hard drives
can and do fail;!....

Flash memory devices are steadily increasing in capacity whilst the
price has dropped dramatically (SD cards now up to 8 GB) However I do
have to admit not being up to speed on these kind of developments, so
I'd like to ask the more knowledgeable on this group 'is there any major
technical reason why some kind of memory card can't became a De Facto
interchangeable standard on millions of PVR's around the world, maybe
coupled with MPEG4?. especially as it's almost certain that not only
will memory capacity continue to improve but prices will also plummet.

The average size of an divx/xvid feature film is well under 1 gb. I
don't know what the quality would be like on a 40" tv, but they're fine
on a 24".

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On Sep 6, 9:23 pm, OldBill wrote:
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded

Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder.

How do you archive material when the disk is full? What happens when
the disk fails and you lose everything as you were unable to archive
all your favourite material?

Archive? What's the point of that then? It's just telly - seen it once, no
need to see it again.

(anyway you can transfer from HD to DVD, easily if you've got something
which does it, but still possible if you haven't).

cheers,
clive

bugbear wrote:
Post this to sci.electronics.repair


So many forums that I didn't know about :-)

- thanks

BugBear

Hi BugBear,

Could you repost this as a new post (without the crossposts) to
sci.electronics.repair alone?

Title it as "Panasonic VCR NV-HS830B - loading problems"

The VCR Techs who haunt over there will pick up on that...

The "scrap it and get a DVD/PVR" noise is not helping your plight!

--
Adrian C

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
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Ivan wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , OldBill
scribeth thus
bugbear wrote:
Two nights ago my VCR refused to play a tape;
the tape was already in, and had been recorded
Its last century's electro-mechanical technology. Dump it and get
something modern.
Skip DVD recorders which are last year's gadgets and get a harddisk
recorder. You'll be amazed at the difference in functionality.
Can you still get VHS tapes anywhere except charity shops?
In fact I still have VCR which cost £400 in 1997 but I haven't used it
for 2 years as the quality is no longer acceptable.

Should clean the heads then Do bear in mind that should you need to
take that recording elsewhere or send it to someone, its a bit tedious
sending a hard drive!.

Course hard disk recording is still electro mechanical and hard drives
can and do fail;!....

Flash memory devices are steadily increasing in capacity whilst the price
has dropped dramatically (SD cards now up to 8 GB) However I do have to
admit not being up to speed on these kind of developments, so I'd like to
ask the more knowledgeable on this group 'is there any major technical
reason why some kind of memory card can't became a De Facto
interchangeable standard on millions of PVR's around the world, maybe
coupled with MPEG4?. especially as it's almost certain that not only will
memory capacity continue to improve but prices will also plummet.

The average size of an divx/xvid feature film is well under 1 gb. I don't
know what the quality would be like on a 40" tv, but they're fine on a
24".


Yes, I have Toshiba portable portable LCD TV which has a card slot and will
play DivX and MPEG4, it has a composite output for TV which produces
respectable pictures on a 28" widescreen telly from a 2 GB SD card, (I saw
some 2 GB cards being sold on one of the shopping channels a few days ago at
£11.00 each) this is what set me thinking as it seems a logical way to go,
especially when considering that people's biggest complaint by far about
PVRs is transferability and their inability to archive material, even many
very cheap items such as printers now have card slots built in as standard.