All these VHS tapes need moving to DVDs.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:20:00 -0400, Ward Abbott
wrote:

On 3 Sep 2007 10:30:59 GMT, wrote:

I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
| a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
| analog video audio (3 rca jacks).
|
| Suggestions?

For under $150 bucks, I bought an RCA DVD recorder and plugged the VCR
into the recorder and pressed record. Simple as that.

As for editing, if those commercials were on the VHS tape for 10
years...what difference will it make if it is on the DVD? We kind of
enjoy the nostalgia seeing them again anyway. Nothing funnier than
watching a VHS in the middle of summer and they break in with a "gonna
be 15 below tonight".....

After all, it is so much easier to get through the commercials in a
DVD than a VHS anyway.


Actually, if I had the tapes on DVD, I believe I could move them to
my computer and edit them using my roxio software. But I definitely
want the ability to edit them.

I'm mulling it over.

"valvejob" wrote in message
...
I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.

I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
analog video audio (3 rca jacks).

Suggestions?




why on earth would you want to?

On Sep 3, 6:30 am, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:11:11 -0700 Flasherly wrote:
| On Sep 2, 4:13 pm, valvejob wrote:
| I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
| could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.
|
| I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
| a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
| analog video audio (3 rca jacks).
|
| Suggestions?
|
| You'll need at a minimum a video capture encoder card and storage.
| All cards are effectively software layered encoding except for high-
| end commercial encoder chipsets ($1000 boards last I looked a number
| of years ago). Most subsequently have minimal encoding standards,
| being economically packaged to endusers for rendering video as close
| to painlessly, in as close to real time, as possible. Without which,
| for higher standards of quality, it's done at approximately at an
| average factor of 1.5 real time. Once over (real time) to make the
| capture, once over for the encode;- with a strong processor (3Ghz+) .5
| time, to 1+ time for a slower processor. The advantage to third-party
| encoders is obviously better results, deviating within encoder setting
| for defined limits as an acceptable facsimile of the source. The
| disadvantage is the learning curve - broadcast engineering and chaos
| theory at its finest. Have a look at Doom9.net for the many encoding
| faqs and forum discussions. If you don't like what you see, a dub-
| over machine VCRDVD is the least painless way to sidestep encoding.

That does not sidestep encoding. It just shields the user from having
to deal with it. There is encoding going on inside (for VHS-DVD).
But I do agree with the "least painless" aspect. For most people this
is the way to go. Those who want to do some menu authoring for their
DVD dubs will have to go the computer route. Same for those who want
to do some editing (like remove the 10 year old commercials); they will
need to get a video editor and learn how to use it. If they are into
free software, Linux + Kino is an option. Other tools will build up the
DVD's UDF image.

Software shouldn't be a major problem - doom9.net is a good resource
for recommendations. None or minimal compression - clean, raw
streaming for common link to AVI/DiVX for an entertainment "system".
MPEG1/2 for standards and authoring. Hardware - here's about as good
as it gets for as close to nothing as possible - couple marginally old
pci boards on top. When I got out most everything was moving to usb
capture devices.

http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?Cat=870

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:11:42 -0700, "George" wrote:

why on earth would you want to?

I had hundreds of collectable's on VHS. The first one that comes to
mind is Fresno with Carol Burnette. Second, Billy Joel, 1982 SNL.
Those things are not replaceable and DVD preserves them while the VHS
tapes are deteriorating.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:17:33 -0700, Flasherly wrote:

On Sep 3, 6:30 am, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:11:11 -0700 Flasherly wrote:
| On Sep 2, 4:13 pm, valvejob wrote:
| I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
| could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.
|
| I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
| a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
| analog video audio (3 rca jacks).
|
| Suggestions?
|
| You'll need at a minimum a video capture encoder card and storage.
| All cards are effectively software layered encoding except for high-
| end commercial encoder chipsets ($1000 boards last I looked a number
| of years ago). Most subsequently have minimal encoding standards,
| being economically packaged to endusers for rendering video as close
| to painlessly, in as close to real time, as possible. Without which,
| for higher standards of quality, it's done at approximately at an
| average factor of 1.5 real time. Once over (real time) to make the
| capture, once over for the encode;- with a strong processor (3Ghz+) .5
| time, to 1+ time for a slower processor. The advantage to third-party
| encoders is obviously better results, deviating within encoder setting
| for defined limits as an acceptable facsimile of the source. The
| disadvantage is the learning curve - broadcast engineering and chaos
| theory at its finest. Have a look at Doom9.net for the many encoding
| faqs and forum discussions. If you don't like what you see, a dub-
| over machine VCRDVD is the least painless way to sidestep encoding.

That does not sidestep encoding. It just shields the user from having
to deal with it. There is encoding going on inside (for VHS-DVD).
But I do agree with the "least painless" aspect. For most people this
is the way to go. Those who want to do some menu authoring for their
DVD dubs will have to go the computer route. Same for those who want
to do some editing (like remove the 10 year old commercials); they will
need to get a video editor and learn how to use it. If they are into
free software, Linux + Kino is an option. Other tools will build up the
DVD's UDF image.

Software shouldn't be a major problem - doom9.net is a good resource
for recommendations. None or minimal compression - clean, raw
streaming for common link to AVI/DiVX for an entertainment "system".
MPEG1/2 for standards and authoring. Hardware - here's about as good
as it gets for as close to nothing as possible - couple marginally old
pci boards on top. When I got out most everything was moving to usb
capture devices.

USB would be perfect. I've got a couple of USB ports on my
computer that I would love to use to hook up my video output from my
VCR.

So how do I convert from analog Video out rca jacks to USB?








http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?Cat=870

On Sep 3, 10:24 am, valvejob wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:17:33 -0700, Flasherly wrote:
On Sep 3, 6:30 am, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:11:11 -0700 Flasherly wrote:
| On Sep 2, 4:13 pm, valvejob wrote:
| I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
| could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.
|
| I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
| a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
| analog video audio (3 rca jacks).
|
| Suggestions?
|
| You'll need at a minimum a video capture encoder card and storage.
| All cards are effectively software layered encoding except for high-
| end commercial encoder chipsets ($1000 boards last I looked a number
| of years ago). Most subsequently have minimal encoding standards,
| being economically packaged to endusers for rendering video as close
| to painlessly, in as close to real time, as possible. Without which,
| for higher standards of quality, it's done at approximately at an
| average factor of 1.5 real time. Once over (real time) to make the
| capture, once over for the encode;- with a strong processor (3Ghz+) .5
| time, to 1+ time for a slower processor. The advantage to third-party
| encoders is obviously better results, deviating within encoder setting
| for defined limits as an acceptable facsimile of the source. The
| disadvantage is the learning curve - broadcast engineering and chaos
| theory at its finest. Have a look at Doom9.net for the many encoding
| faqs and forum discussions. If you don't like what you see, a dub-
| over machine VCRDVD is the least painless way to sidestep encoding.

That does not sidestep encoding. It just shields the user from having
to deal with it. There is encoding going on inside (for VHS-DVD).
But I do agree with the "least painless" aspect. For most people this
is the way to go. Those who want to do some menu authoring for their
DVD dubs will have to go the computer route. Same for those who want
to do some editing (like remove the 10 year old commercials); they will
need to get a video editor and learn how to use it. If they are into
free software, Linux + Kino is an option. Other tools will build up the
DVD's UDF image.

Software shouldn't be a major problem - doom9.net is a good resource
for recommendations. None or minimal compression - clean, raw
streaming for common link to AVI/DiVX for an entertainment "system".
MPEG1/2 for standards and authoring. Hardware - here's about as good
as it gets for as close to nothing as possible - couple marginally old
pci boards on top. When I got out most everything was moving to usb
capture devices.

USB would be perfect. I've got a couple of USB ports on my
computer that I would love to use to hook up my video output from my
VCR.

So how do I convert from analog Video out rca jacks to USB?



http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?Cat=870

Capture devices have RCA video jacks / SVideo inputs, and may do
double duty as a glorified computer TV tuner. USB variants may have
an external power transformer, and interface into the OS through USB
instead of off the PCI bus.

descriptions, specs, and odds-'n'-ends reviews for openers -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Order=REVIEWS

valvejob wrote:
I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.

I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
analog video audio (3 rca jacks).

Suggestions?




I also need to move about 25 VHS (and some Hi-8) home movies to DVD.
I have used a PCI card from Pinnacle Studio to make a DVD from my Hi-8
analog video camera using S-Video. The software has lots of editing
features but is not the most stable (crashed to desktop sometimes). I
had some video taken ocean-side where the wind noise was high and using
the 'wind filter' I could reduce wind noise so you could now understand
and hear us talking!

The Pinnacle Dazzle is a cheap USB device that would work. Someone at
work moved a 30min training video from VHS to DVD using the Dazzle and
it worked fine.

I also just got the Pinnacle HD PRO STICK and have recorded HDTV BUT I
have not tried the the S-Video or composite inputs yet and the newer
software version (Ver. 10.7) with the PRO Dtick is not much better then
the older PCI card version (Ver. 9.4). In fact I like 9.4 better but it
will not edit HD and I have yet been able to burn a HD program to DVD.
-Mike

"Mike Ray" wrote in message
...
valvejob wrote:
I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.

I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
analog video audio (3 rca jacks).

Suggestions?




I also need to move about 25 VHS (and some Hi-8) home movies to DVD.
I have used a PCI card from Pinnacle Studio to make a DVD from my Hi-8
analog video camera using S-Video. The software has lots of editing
features but is not the most stable (crashed to desktop sometimes).

Pinnacle Studio 10 is what I use for VHS captures, but as some of the tapes
I am converting need adjustments for brightness, color level and color tone
it is a trial and error process.

I am looking for software to help with the adjustment process but I have not
found any so far, in fact not any discussion of these adjustments that
helps.

Yes I am very unhappy with Pinnacle Studio 10 as it crashes a very lot for
me, for mpeg2 video files the input must be perfect with no problems at all
or it will not render the desired DVD.

I had to switch to SVCD2DVD (I got
lucky, $2.08, £1 still on the web page) to do the last DVD.

Some of the capture problems can be overcome with Pinnacle Studio 10 filters
but the result is poor compared with adjusting the input parameters.

I have several possibilities for VHS capture, my two Graphics cards ASUS
EAX1600 (XT, PRO) Silent in my two computers.

I also have the possibility using my two HDTV tuners, one not recommended
and a FUSION5 RT Gold which I used last time with success (Except for the
pain of trying to get the adjustments for brightness, color level and color
tone right).

I plan to use my graphics card for the next VHS capture.

had some video taken ocean-side where the wind noise was high and using
the 'wind filter' I could reduce wind noise so you could now understand
and hear us talking!

Yes, Pinnacle Studio is great if it does not crash.


The Pinnacle Dazzle is a cheap USB device that would work. Someone at work
moved a 30min training video from VHS to DVD using the Dazzle and it
worked fine.

I also just got the Pinnacle HD PRO STICK and have recorded HDTV BUT I
have not tried the the S-Video or composite inputs yet and the newer
software version (Ver. 10.7) with the PRO Dtick is not much better then
the older PCI card version (Ver. 9.4). In fact I like 9.4 better but it
will not edit HD and I have yet been able to burn a HD program to DVD.
-Mike

As I said before, try SVCD2DVD or its free HDTV2DVD version.

Look at FlyCap (free). It appears to have the same capture controls as
Pinnacle Studio 10. There are many free programs to help build the DVD's
but none as useful as Pinnacle Studio 10. That is, if it would not crash so
much.

Try the S-Video or composite inputs, they may work just fine for VHS
capture.

Also look at the Doom9 web pages, lots of information there.

On Sep 2, 4:13 pm, valvejob wrote:
I've got a ton of home VHS tapes that I'd like to move to DVD which
could then be played on my DVD player hooked to my HDTV.

I'm willing to buy a new motherboard and video card and possibly even
a new vhs VCR player that has the proper outputs. Mine only has
analog video audio (3 rca jacks).

Suggestions?

Do you have a digital video camera? If so, some (such as my Canon
Eulura 20) has an analog - digital converter. So what I can do is
hook up the VCR to the Camera, Camera to PC via Firewire. Hit play on
the VCR, capture on the computer. Then convert and burn to DVD.