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Old August 30th 07, 02:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Drakazz
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Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to connect a computer to a HD
television without losing any quality?
What would be needed on the computer side as an extra?
Do any graphics cards come with HDMI connectors?
Are there DVI - HDMI connectors?
Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?

Thanks.

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Old August 30th 07, 03:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Darren Wilkinson[_3_]
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Drakazz wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to connect a computer to a HD
television without losing any quality?

Yes.

What would be needed on the computer side as an extra?

A graphics card with a DVI or HD connector

Do any graphics cards come with HDMI connectors?

Yes some new ones do. Google is your friend here.

Are there DVI - HDMI connectors?

Yes. As above google is your friend

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?

If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide to
downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.
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Old August 30th 07, 03:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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thanks a lot
On Aug 30, 2:39 pm, Darren Wilkinson [email protected] wrote:
Drakazz wrote:
Hello,


I was wondering if it is possible to connect a computer to a HD
television without losing any quality?


Yes.

What would be needed on the computer side as an extra?


A graphics card with a DVI or HD connector

Do any graphics cards come with HDMI connectors?


Yes some new ones do. Google is your friend here.

Are there DVI - HDMI connectors?


Yes. As above google is your friend

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?


If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide to
downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.


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Old August 30th 07, 06:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Drakazz" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to connect a computer to a HD
television without losing any quality?
What would be needed on the computer side as an extra?
Do any graphics cards come with HDMI connectors?
Are there DVI - HDMI connectors?


PC Work has some DVI/HDMI converters but I have no idea if they are for
converting DVI sockets to HDMI input or HDMI sockets for DVI input.

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?

Thanks.


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Old August 31st 07, 12:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Rumm
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Darren Wilkinson wrote:

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?


If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide to
downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.


AnyDVD HD will sort any issues like this and do away with the need for a
HDCP chain to be in place.

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John.

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Old August 31st 07, 07:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Darren Wilkinson wrote:

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?


If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide to
downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.


AnyDVD HD will sort any issues like this and do away with the need for a
HDCP chain to be in place.


Ah, indeed. A foxy little chap who has sat in my systray for many years.
Does what it says on the tin.
Highly recommended.

Although, amusingly enough for a program designed entirely to stamp on other
peoples copyrights, he's remarkably touchy about his own. There's a
running battle between the warez release groups which hack anydvd and
slysoft!

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Ron

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Old August 31st 07, 09:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Rumm
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Ron Lowe wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Darren Wilkinson wrote:

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?


If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide
to downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.


AnyDVD HD will sort any issues like this and do away with the need for
a HDCP chain to be in place.


Ah, indeed. A foxy little chap who has sat in my systray for many years.
Does what it says on the tin.
Highly recommended.


Yup.. I used to go to the bother of reflashing my DVD drives to make
them RPC1 compliant, and then using DVD Genie to curtail windows
enthusiasm for region coding etc. I avoided buying anyDVD for years
since it seemed there were "free" ways of doing it.

However having used it I would not go back as it soon becomes apparent
that it does way more than it says on the tin, like stripping all the
daft audio protection schemes from ordinary CDs, having away CSS and all
the various DVD protections mechanisms. It does it so effectively that
you can just get on and use the DVDs/CDs you have bought and paid for in
any way that *you* choose. Which makes a nice change.

Although, amusingly enough for a program designed entirely to stamp on
other peoples copyrights, he's remarkably touchy about his own.
There's a running battle between the warez release groups which hack
anydvd and slysoft!


You could argue it has plenty enough legitimate uses though. The fact
that you can use it to make copying easy etc, is a nice benefit, but it
would still be worth having even if it did not.

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Cheers,

John.

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Old August 31st 07, 10:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ron Lowe
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Ron Lowe wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Darren Wilkinson wrote:

Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?

If you are playing HD-DVD or blu-ray movies the player might decide to
downsample some of the pictures but otherwise HDCP isn't necessary.

AnyDVD HD will sort any issues like this and do away with the need for a
HDCP chain to be in place.


Ah, indeed. A foxy little chap who has sat in my systray for many years.
Does what it says on the tin.
Highly recommended.


Yup.. I used to go to the bother of reflashing my DVD drives to make them
RPC1 compliant, and then using DVD Genie to curtail windows enthusiasm for
region coding etc. I avoided buying anyDVD for years since it seemed there
were "free" ways of doing it.


Yes, I always used Pioneer DVD drives, since they were always easily
flashable back to RCP1 at flashmans rpc1 website (
http://flashman.rpc-1.com/ for anyone interested ). But I've not bothered
much since I used AnyDVD.


However having used it I would not go back as it soon becomes apparent
that it does way more than it says on the tin, like stripping all the daft
audio protection schemes from ordinary CDs, having away CSS and all the
various DVD protections mechanisms. It does it so effectively that you can
just get on and use the DVDs/CDs you have bought and paid for in any way
that *you* choose. Which makes a nice change.


Exactly.
Although it does update several times a week, it seems.
Various updates to support new variations on Sony's ARCOS protection etc.

Although, amusingly enough for a program designed entirely to stamp on
other peoples copyrights, he's remarkably touchy about his own. There's
a running battle between the warez release groups which hack anydvd and
slysoft!


You could argue it has plenty enough legitimate uses though. The fact that
you can use it to make copying easy etc, is a nice benefit, but it would
still be worth having even if it did not.


TBH, my major use is to copy the kid's DVDs which I already own. Then, I
don't care if they scratch them. I use it along with slysoft CloneDVD.
Another benefit is that I can choose to copy only the main movie, so when
the kids shove the DVD in, they don't have to watch all the FACT waffle
/ads/ trailers /menus. It just cuts to the chase. It is a real chore to
me now to have to suffer all the pre- crap on a genuine DVD. I prefer the
copy.

--
Ron

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Old September 1st 07, 12:26 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Rumm
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Ron Lowe wrote:

TBH, my major use is to copy the kid's DVDs which I already own. Then,
I don't care if they scratch them. I use it along with slysoft
CloneDVD. Another benefit is that I can choose to copy only the main
movie, so when the kids shove the DVD in, they don't have to watch all
the FACT waffle /ads/ trailers /menus. It just cuts to the chase. It
is a real chore to me now to have to suffer all the pre- crap on a
genuine DVD. I prefer the copy.


Yup, same here, except usually with DVDShrink to do the copy / remaster

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Cheers,

John.

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Old September 4th 07, 10:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bigguy[_2_]
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Default PC - graphics card - HDMI - HDTV possible?

Drakazz wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to connect a computer to a HD
television without losing any quality?


Yes - I'm doing this now...

What would be needed on the computer side as an extra?
Do any graphics cards come with HDMI connectors?


Some do - most have DVI - see below...

Are there DVI - HDMI connectors?


Yes adaptors and cables...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATLONA-DVI-MAL...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-DVI-D-to-...QQcmdZViewItem


Will any quality be lost because there would be no HDCP enabled?


N0, not with general PC output - I have my PC desktop set to 1920 x 1080
feeding a Sharp LC-52XD1E 52" LCD HDTV; it looks fantastic... ;-)

Possibly with 'protected content' (Blue-Ray etc.)- it will be
downsampled without HDCP.
But HD TV should have HDCP on HDMI input and be OK...

Thanks.


Guy
 




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