What does this book say?

Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work, without a
subscription service?

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:04:37 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:


Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work, without a
subscription service?

check it out for yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1592...64#reader-link


--
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:04:37 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:


Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work, without
a subscription service?

check it out for yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1592...002-9844748-82
09664#reader-link

I read that before I posted, and found it unhelpful.

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:00:10 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:04:37 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:


Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work, without
a subscription service?

check it out for yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1592...002-9844748-82
09664#reader-link

I read that before I posted, and found it unhelpful.

?? Hmm, it's a link to the actual book! I read the table of contents
and preface before I posted the link.

In any case, hacking a Tivo is usually about improving its usefulness,
legally. I doubt a printed book would tell one how to do illegal
activities. And there was nothing in the TOC about enabling
non-subscription service.


--
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:00:10 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
m:

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:04:37 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:


Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work,
without a subscription service?

check it out for yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1592...sib_dp_pt/002-
9844748-
82 09664#reader-link

I read that before I posted, and found it unhelpful.

?? Hmm, it's a link to the actual book! I read the table of contents
and preface before I posted the link.

In any case, hacking a Tivo is usually about improving its usefulness,
legally. I doubt a printed book would tell one how to do illegal
activities. And there was nothing in the TOC about enabling
non-subscription service.

Actually, I hadn't seen that, but it's *not* a link to the actual book.
It's a link to the first page of the table of contents and the first
page of the index, neither of which is particularly useful.

Using the tivo box without the subscription service is perfectly legal.
Where do these crooks get off charging a fee to record tv programs?
They got some nerve, and the sooner they go bankrupt the better.

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it myself to
watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These crooks are
really something, charging us fees to do things that are free with a
different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:10:36 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

snip

Actually, I hadn't seen that, but it's *not* a link to the actual book.
It's a link to the first page of the table of contents and the first
page of the index, neither of which is particularly useful.


Actually, you can just scroll on to the all of the TOC and the
preface, and probably farther. I stopped after the preface.

Using the tivo box without the subscription service is perfectly legal.
Where do these crooks get off charging a fee to record tv programs?
They got some nerve, and the sooner they go bankrupt the better.

Well, if people figure out how to get the service without paying ofr
it, they probably will go bankrupt soon. How is it that YOU get to
decide what is legal?

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it myself to
watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These crooks are
really something, charging us fees to do things that are free with a
different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

....... then just use a different machine.

--
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

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Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:00:10 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:04:37 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:


Does the book, Hacking the Tivo, say how to make a tivo work,
without a subscription service?

check it out for yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1592...sib_dp_pt/002-
9844748-
82 09664#reader-link

I read that before I posted, and found it unhelpful.

?? Hmm, it's a link to the actual book! I read the table of contents
and preface before I posted the link.

In any case, hacking a Tivo is usually about improving its usefulness,
legally. I doubt a printed book would tell one how to do illegal
activities. And there was nothing in the TOC about enabling
non-subscription service.

Actually, I hadn't seen that, but it's *not* a link to the actual book.
It's a link to the first page of the table of contents and the first
page of the index, neither of which is particularly useful.

Using the tivo box without the subscription service is perfectly legal.
Where do these crooks get off charging a fee to record tv programs?
They got some nerve, and the sooner they go bankrupt the better.

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it myself to
watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These crooks are
really something, charging us fees to do things that are free with a
different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

Why not then just get one from you local cable/satellite provider? I'm sure
they will give you one for free. Especially if you are as direct and willful
with them as you were in your posts. While you're at it you should tell them
that your programming should be free as well. Let us know how it goes, won't
you?

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:10:36 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

snip

Actually, I hadn't seen that, but it's *not* a link to the actual
book. It's a link to the first page of the table of contents and the
first page of the index, neither of which is particularly useful.

Actually, you can just scroll on to the all of the TOC and the
preface, and probably farther. I stopped after the preface.

Using the tivo box without the subscription service is perfectly
legal. Where do these crooks get off charging a fee to record tv
programs? They got some nerve, and the sooner they go bankrupt the
better.

Well, if people figure out how to get the service without paying ofr
it, they probably will go bankrupt soon. How is it that YOU get to
decide what is legal?

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it myself
to watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These crooks
are really something, charging us fees to do things that are free with
a different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

...... then just use a different machine.

Which one?

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:24:21 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

snip

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it myself
to watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These crooks
are really something, charging us fees to do things that are free with
a different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

...... then just use a different machine.

Which one?

Any one that does the things you want for free. You're the one that
said different machines did what you wanted for free.




--
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:24:21 GMT, John Schutkeker
wrote:

snip

I wanna use the tivo the same way I use my vcr - to program it
myself to watch the shows that *I* choose, and nothing else. These
crooks are really something, charging us fees to do things that are
free with a different machine. Gimmee a break! :O

...... then just use a different machine.

Which one?

Any one that does the things you want for free. You're the one that
said different machines did what you wanted for free.

Did you even read the post? I was talking about vcr's.