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Old August 11th 07, 09:55 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mel
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Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house accessible
from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year. There are two feeds
coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and one into the main
bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one and
run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not two?
The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such as
signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows 65/70%
and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same or as
good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.






  #2  
Old August 11th 07, 10:30 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan
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Default I'll Start Again

In message , Mel
wrote

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house accessible
from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year. There are two feeds
coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and one into the main
bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...2&cname=Masthe
ad%20Products&plid=8&sc1name=Combiners%20Splitter s%20Filters&sc2name=&pi
d=23&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one and
run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...8&cname=Networ
k%20Taps%20and%20Splitters&plid=26&sc1name=UHF%20 Splitters&sc2name=&pid=
113&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not two?
The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such as
signal drop, noise etc.


The 2 outlet device has a 3.7dB insertion loss at 470Mhz whereas the 4
outlet device has a 7.8dB insertion loss.

The extra insertion loss may make the signal at the TV and PVR marginal.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows 65/70%
and signal quality shows as 100%.


You may need a distribution amplifier rather than a passive splitter.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same or as
good as CT100.


No.

If you go to Bill Wright's site at
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/coaxcablequalityhmdim.htm
its the type C cable mentioned in the article. The CT100 type is the
type A or B cable mentioned in the article.

The foam dielectric CT100 'type' cable from Screwfix is
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=22591&ts=20231
It also comes in black (search for PF100).
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com
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Old August 11th 07, 10:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson
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Default I'll Start Again

In message , Mel
writes

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house accessible
from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year. There are two feeds
coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and one into the main
bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...2&cname=Masthe
ad%20Products&plid=8&sc1name=Combiners%20Splitter s%20Filters&sc2name=&pi
d=23&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one and
run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...8&cname=Networ
k%20Taps%20and%20Splitters&plid=26&sc1name=UHF%20 Splitters&sc2name=&pid=
113&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not two?
The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such as
signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows 65/70%
and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same or as
good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

I can't see any problem, except that loss of the 4-way splitter will be
appx 3.7dB more than for the 2-way (say 8dB maximum). You will also lose
another 2 or 3dB in the coax. The total loss from input to splitter to
TV set will therefore be roughly 10dB.

As what you have already is working OK with the existing coax drops
(which are probably as least as long as the new ones), you will really
only experience the addition splitter loss. As the present signal
strength 65/70%, I reckon you'll get away with it.
--
Ian.
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Old August 11th 07, 12:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained[_2_]
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Why not stay in this afternoon and fix it?
LOL

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start
again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house accessible
from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year. There are two
feeds coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and one into the
main bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one and
run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not two?
The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such as
signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows
65/70% and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same or
as good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.







  #5  
Old August 11th 07, 11:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mel
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Posts: 28
Default I'll Start Again


"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Why not stay in this afternoon and fix it?


Did you go John. Gotta say we were cr*p

Mel.

LOL

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start
again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house
accessible from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year. There
are two feeds coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and one
into the main bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one and
run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not two?
The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such
as signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows
65/70% and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same or
as good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.









  #6  
Old August 12th 07, 08:23 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained[_2_]
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Posts: 23
Default I'll Start Again

Yes and yes we were.
You should have stayed home and fixed the aerial, I should have stayed home
and fixed my neighbours drawers.

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Why not stay in this afternoon and fix it?


Did you go John. Gotta say we were cr*p

Mel.

LOL

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start
again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house
accessible from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year.
There are two feeds coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge and
one into the main bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one
and run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the
kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not
two? The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such
as signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows
65/70% and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same
or as good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.










  #7  
Old August 12th 07, 10:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mel
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Posts: 28
Default I'll Start Again


"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Yes and yes we were.
You should have stayed home and fixed the aerial, I should have stayed
home and fixed my neighbours drawers.


??????????????????

What type of drawers

Mel.


--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Why not stay in this afternoon and fix it?


Did you go John. Gotta say we were cr*p

Mel.

LOL

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start
again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house
accessible from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year.
There are two feeds coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge
and one into the main bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one
and run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the
kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not
two? The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for such
as signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both freeview
boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the lounge shows
65/70% and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same
or as good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.












  #8  
Old August 12th 07, 08:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained[_2_]
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Posts: 23
Default I'll Start Again

My neighbours front has dropped off her drawer as in chest of drawers and
I'm down to fix it back on with 2 3"brackets and nuts and bolts. Then guess
what? Her daughters drawer dropped off too. You couldn't make it up.

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Yes and yes we were.
You should have stayed home and fixed the aerial, I should have stayed
home and fixed my neighbours drawers.


??????????????????

What type of drawers

Mel.


--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Why not stay in this afternoon and fix it?

Did you go John. Gotta say we were cr*p

Mel.

LOL

--
John the West Ham fan



"Mel" wrote in message
...

Ladies and Gents,

Apologies for the confusion, I am a novice to all this so I'll start
again.

I have a labgear pcs120 sitting just under the eves of my house
accessible from a step ladder. It's been up there for about a year.
There are two feeds coming from it, one to the main TV in the lounge
and one into the main bedroom. It's one of these.

http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=PSC120

How easy or difficult would it be to swap this out for a four way one
and run another two feeds out. One to another bedroom and one to the
kitchen.
http://www.labgear.co.uk/products.ph...3&pname=FJU704

It looks the same (to me) as the PCS120 only it has four outlets not
two? The cable runs would be about 12mts to 15mts, and both runs are
easy and straight forward. Is there anything I should look out for
such as signal drop, noise etc.

At the moment as things stand the picture is very good to both
freeview boxes and the signal strength on my Humax PVR9200 in the
lounge shows 65/70% and signal quality shows as 100%.

Thanks to Piers James for pointing me in the right direction for CT100
cable. Is the stuff on the screwfix site
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...72308&ts=18671 the same
or as good as CT100.

Loads of questions I know, but your help here would be very much
appreciated.

Mel.

Gravity is a myth
The Earth Sucks.













 




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