OT - Dragons' Den Standby Saver

Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on Dragons'
Den?

The website for it and what it claims to do is he

http://www.standby-saver.co.uk/stand...r_products.htm

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the TVs or
Audio systems original remote control and switches the power to the
equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other equipment is in the
standby mode the power used by the equipment including the standby saver is
zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power is
consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device onto
their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power consumption
is false advertising because they're claiming to have invented a perpetual
motion machine.


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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on
Dragons' Den?

The website for it and what it claims to do is he

http://www.standby-saver.co.uk/stand...r_products.htm

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the TVs
or Audio systems original remote control and switches the power to the
equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other equipment is in the
standby mode the power used by the equipment including the standby saver
is zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power
is consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device
onto their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power
consumption is false advertising because they're claiming to have invented
a perpetual motion machine.

Don't mention Dragon's Den to me. The *******s wouldn't even consider my
idea of ejector seats for helicopter pilots.

(kim)

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the TVs or
Audio systems original remote control and switches the power to the
equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other equipment is in the
standby mode the power used by the equipment including the standby saver is
zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power is
consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device onto
their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power consumption
is false advertising because they're claiming to have invented a perpetual
motion machine.

Well their claim can be "technically" correct - in that after you have
turned it off, there is no power consumption at all from the mains until
you turn it back on. In energy terms there is slight of hand going on,
in that the battery must be charged when the system is "on". However the
big advantage is it makes it easy enough to turn of a bunch of related
bits of equipment with a single remote button push, that folks might
actually do it. (as to how much real value that really offers is a
different question!)

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John.

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:09:55 GMT, "DAB sounds worse than FM"
[email protected] wrote:

Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on Dragons'
Den?

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power is
consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device onto
their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power consumption
is false advertising because they're claiming to have invented a perpetual
motion machine.

What did you expect? The EU target of a 1-watt standby mode
is not achievable with current technology.

Standby Saver might be useful if you use it to control an
entire AV rack (except Video/PVR).

Nick.

"kim" wrote in message
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on
Dragons' Den?

The website for it and what it claims to do is he

http://www.standby-saver.co.uk/stand...r_products.htm

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the TVs
or Audio systems original remote control and switches the power to the
equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other equipment is in
the standby mode the power used by the equipment including the standby
saver is zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power
is consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device
onto their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power
consumption is false advertising because they're claiming to have
invented a perpetual motion machine.

Don't mention Dragon's Den to me. The *******s wouldn't even consider my
idea of ejector seats for helicopter pilots.

(kim)

- or my ashtray for motorbikes.

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on
Dragons' Den?

Report it to ASA if you're SO bothered. Just use the on/off switch instead.
Far easier and when the switch is OFF it uses no power. Standby is a waste
of time on any equipment.

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on Dragons'
Den?

The website for it and what it claims to do is he

http://www.standby-saver.co.uk/stand...r_products.htm

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the TVs or
Audio systems original remote control and switches the power to the
equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other equipment is in the
standby mode the power used by the equipment including the standby saver is
zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable battery to
power the receiver that detects the signal from the remote control, so
surely all they've actually achieved is to move the point at which power is
consumed by the remote control detector from the TV or whatever device onto
their Standby Saver plug socket, and their claim of zero power consumption
is false advertising because they're claiming to have invented a perpetual
motion machine.



Holy carp - I was building electronic switches like these for PCs in the
mid-late 1980s to turn off the monitor when it sensed that the base unit
was powered down - this was before monitors could sense this for
themselves and when PC manufacturers stopped putting a secondary socket
on the PSUs for the monitor.

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:01:59 +0100, "Ron" wrote:

Report it to ASA if you're SO bothered. Just use the on/off switch instead.
Far easier and when the switch is OFF it uses no power. Standby is a waste
of time on any equipment.

Yeah, who wants their PVR to actually record things.
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Ron wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
Does anybody know how the Standby Saver worked that was featured on
Dragons' Den?

Report it to ASA if you're SO bothered.


I'm not bothered.


Just use the on/off switch
instead. Far easier and when the switch is OFF it uses no power. Standby
is a waste of time on any equipment.


Yeah, that's why nobody ever puts any device into standby, moron.


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John Rumm wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

"The standby saver responds to the "standby" and "on" buttons of the
TVs or Audio systems original remote control and switches the power
to the equipment on and off as needed. While the TV and other
equipment is in the standby mode the power used by the equipment
including the standby saver is zero."

I've found some mention elsewhere that they use a rechargeable
battery to power the receiver that detects the signal from the
remote control, so surely all they've actually achieved is to move
the point at which power is consumed by the remote control detector
from the TV or whatever device onto their Standby Saver plug socket,
and their claim of zero power consumption is false advertising
because they're claiming to have invented a perpetual motion machine.

Well their claim can be "technically" correct - in that after you have
turned it off, there is no power consumption at all from the mains
until you turn it back on. In energy terms there is slight of hand
going on, in that the battery must be charged when the system is
"on".


Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.


However the big advantage is it makes it easy enough to turn of
a bunch of related bits of equipment with a single remote button
push, that folks might actually do it.


True.


(as to how much real value
that really offers is a different question!)


£24.99's worth, apparently. ;-)


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