DIRECTV to Introduce Additional TiVo Features

I am a hard core TIVO fan so in moving to DISH with the 622 I was a bit
apprehensive, But so far the box is a decent piece of equipment. I do miss
the "wish list" of Tivo, and I find the UI of the 622 a bit less intuitive,
but the biggest issue I have is if I am sitting watching TV1 I MUST watch
what tuner one is doing, If I wish to watch another channel I must go to TV
2.

Regarding the on demand feature. Where does it store the movies, On the HD
obviously but at the sacrifice of my disk space? They also have a grayed out
transfer to USB device option. Are there any rumors that will be turned on?


"David Z" wrote in message
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"Larry V" wrote in message
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Why would I pay $200 to $250 or whatever for an obsolete box (no
MPEG4,
right?) when I can sign up for Dish TV and get the top-rated
ViP622,
more HD channels, better picture quality, no upfront fee and no
commitment?

A) Hang out in the DiSH newsgroup for a bit first to make sure the
box you
are about to get is reliable.

B) When did DiSH stop asking for committments?

Goodbye, DirecTV. So much for your "retention dept."


I just got a 622 and I signed an 18th committment.

Well...what are your impressions/observations?

On 7-Aug-2007, "Larry V" wrote:

.. but the biggest issue I have is if I am sitting watching TV1 I MUST
watch what tuner one is doing, If I wish to watch another channel I must
go to TV 2.

I guess I don't understand what you are saying.

It would semm to me that if you are watching TV1 that means you are watching
whatever tuner #1 is tuned to.

In rec.video.satellite.dbs Larry V wrote:
I am a hard core TIVO fan so in moving to DISH with the 622 I was a bit
apprehensive, But so far the box is a decent piece of equipment. I do miss
the "wish list" of Tivo, and I find the UI of the 622 a bit less intuitive,
but the biggest issue I have is if I am sitting watching TV1 I MUST watch
what tuner one is doing, If I wish to watch another channel I must go to TV

How long have you had the Dish box? If it's less than a couple of months,
you might still be in a honeymoon period.

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

My direct Tivo R10 allowed me to switch to the other tuner at any time. If
the second tuner was recording I couldn't change the channel but I could
watch either tuner at any time.

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On 7-Aug-2007, "Larry V" wrote:

.. but the biggest issue I have is if I am sitting watching TV1 I MUST
watch what tuner one is doing, If I wish to watch another channel I must
go to TV 2.

I guess I don't understand what you are saying.

It would semm to me that if you are watching TV1 that means you are
watching
whatever tuner #1 is tuned to.

Larry V wrote:
My direct Tivo R10 allowed me to switch to the other tuner at any time. If
the second tuner was recording I couldn't change the channel but I could
watch either tuner at any time.

If you are recording two shows with a Dish 6xx series DVR and wish to
watch the show that is on Tuner 2 with TV one try going to your list and
playing it from there. Worked for me many times when I had my 625

wrote:
In rec.video.satellite.dbs Steve Dell wrote:
I've been using the DirecTV DVR now for two weeks. I've been a TiVo user
for many years, within a year of when they first came out.

Just wait. The most basic functions are okay, but the DirecTV DVR is truly
abysmal at anything that you haven't already used.

How do you switch tuners? LiveTV on the DTivo, or info and a down arrow.
You can do a dance of discovery on the DirecTV DVR, but it involves
recording shows that you don't want to keep, just so you can manipulate the
tuners.

What happens when there is a conflict coming up on the next hour and you
are watching live TV? It's difficult to figure out what it wants to do, and
I sometimes find that it is recording the same show on two different
channels. I "stop" one of them, and lose both. If I'm not actually live,
but back somewhere in the buffer, I am going to lose that, unless I record.

Where is a wishlist? If I wanted to record some baseball games, I might be
able to enter an auto-record for "giants at" which shows up in the listing
as "Giants @" and catches only the away games, but "at giants" doesn't find
the home games. The Tivo will catch both with an "at giants" wishlist.

The first few days with a DirecTV DVR are hard to get used to.
You know the Tivo interface, and the DirecTV DVR has a difficult interface
to grasp, even from no previous mindset. Then you get used to it.
Later, you will get frustrated when the things that don't happen every day
come into play. The DirecTV DVR was developed with no experience, very
little common sense, and hasn't been updated.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the limits like the lack of a wish
list (Replay had it, Dish had it, I'm sure TiVo has it) or the 99 item
lmit in the "To Do" list. I'm tracking a couple of R-10's though

On 7-Aug-2007, "Larry V" wrote:

My direct Tivo R10 allowed me to switch to the other tuner at any time. If
the second tuner was recording I couldn't change the channel but I could
watch either tuner at any time.

I believe you can do the same thing on a 622--it all depends upon how you
have your connections set up.

"Larry V" writes:
"Little Sir Echo" [email protected] this.net wrote
On 7-Aug-2007, "Larry V" wrote:

.. but the biggest issue I have is if I am sitting watching TV1 I MUST
watch what tuner one is doing, If I wish to watch another channel I must
go to TV 2.

I guess I don't understand what you are saying.

It would semm to me that if you are watching TV1 that means you are
watching whatever tuner #1 is tuned to.

My direct Tivo R10 allowed me to switch to the other tuner at any time. If
the second tuner was recording I couldn't change the channel but I could
watch either tuner at any time.

RTFM and see what the "swap" button does.

In article , John in
detroit wrote:

wrote:
In rec.video.satellite.dbs Steve Dell wrote:
I've been using the DirecTV DVR now for two weeks. I've been a TiVo user
for many years, within a year of when they first came out.

Just wait. The most basic functions are okay, but the DirecTV DVR is truly
abysmal at anything that you haven't already used.

How do you switch tuners? LiveTV on the DTivo, or info and a down arrow.
You can do a dance of discovery on the DirecTV DVR, but it involves
recording shows that you don't want to keep, just so you can manipulate the
tuners.

What happens when there is a conflict coming up on the next hour and you
are watching live TV? It's difficult to figure out what it wants to do, and
I sometimes find that it is recording the same show on two different
channels. I "stop" one of them, and lose both. If I'm not actually live,
but back somewhere in the buffer, I am going to lose that, unless I record.

Where is a wishlist? If I wanted to record some baseball games, I might be
able to enter an auto-record for "giants at" which shows up in the listing
as "Giants @" and catches only the away games, but "at giants" doesn't find
the home games. The Tivo will catch both with an "at giants" wishlist.

The first few days with a DirecTV DVR are hard to get used to.
You know the Tivo interface, and the DirecTV DVR has a difficult interface
to grasp, even from no previous mindset. Then you get used to it.
Later, you will get frustrated when the things that don't happen every day
come into play. The DirecTV DVR was developed with no experience, very
little common sense, and hasn't been updated.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the limits like the lack of a wish
list (Replay had it, Dish had it, I'm sure TiVo has it) or the 99 item
lmit in the "To Do" list. I'm tracking a couple of R-10's though


Thanks you all for your opinions, and for relating your experiences
with these various machines. It's been very helpful to me, and I
appreciate it.

On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:20:52 -0400, "David Z" wrote:

"MegaZone" wrote in message
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What are "Recently Deleted Folder" and "Overlap Protection(TM)?"

The former is just what it sounds like - a folder of recently deleted
shows.

Overlap protection allows you to record two shows that overlap up to 5
minutes - the lower priority show gets truncated.

OK, thanks for the info.

Which they no longer offer to new customers or HD upgraders.

You can still buy one from a 3rd party and activate it.

Why would I pay $200 to $250 or whatever for an obsolete box (no MPEG4,
right?) when I can sign up for Dish TV and get the top-rated ViP622,
more HD channels, better picture quality, no upfront fee and no
commitment?

The Dish box has it's own problems. HDMI inputs are one, so if that's
important, checkout the echostar newsgroup

Goodbye, DirecTV. So much for your "retention dept."