Will sky join in the price war

Hi
Does anyone think that Sky customers will get Setanta free like the Virgin
customers are getting.
Thanks from Eddie

"tim" wrote in message
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Hi
Does anyone think that Sky customers will get Setanta free like the Virgin
customers are getting.
Thanks from Eddie

No chance. Sky would just be giving money to one of their biggest bidding
rivals.

Yes this is true but they will lose a vast amount of existing customers who
will change over to Virgin because if you get the basic package with them
you still get Setanta sports free...
"tim" wrote in message
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Hi
Does anyone think that Sky customers will get Setanta free like the Virgin
customers are getting.
Thanks from Eddie

In article , tim
writes
Yes this is true but they will lose a vast amount of existing customers who
will change over to Virgin because if you get the basic package with them
you still get Setanta sports free...

Don't you have to be on the top package with Virgin to get Setanta
sports free? Most of the Sky subscribers who are paying a similar price
are going to be on the top package, including Sky Sports where they'll
still be getting more football. I believe Sky get first pick of the
matches anyway, so Setanta are getting "second-rate" football anyway.
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Sean Black

"Sean Black" wrote in message
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In article , tim
writes
Yes this is true but they will lose a vast amount of existing customers
who
will change over to Virgin because if you get the basic package with them
you still get Setanta sports free...

Don't you have to be on the top package with Virgin to get Setanta sports
free? Most of the Sky subscribers who are paying a similar price are going
to be on the top package, including Sky Sports where they'll still be
getting more football. I believe Sky get first pick of the matches anyway,
so Setanta are getting "second-rate" football anyway.
--
Sean Black

I believe the packages were split equally , just that Setanta bought only
one of them.


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RobertJM

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RobertJM writes

"Sean Black" wrote in message
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In article , tim
writes
Yes this is true but they will lose a vast amount of existing customers
who
will change over to Virgin because if you get the basic package with them
you still get Setanta sports free...

Don't you have to be on the top package with Virgin to get Setanta sports
free? Most of the Sky subscribers who are paying a similar price are going
to be on the top package, including Sky Sports where they'll still be
getting more football. I believe Sky get first pick of the matches anyway,
so Setanta are getting "second-rate" football anyway.
--
Sean Black

I believe the packages were split equally , just that Setanta bought only
one of them.


Setanta got the old Prem Plus package which was always very much the
lesser games after the main Sunday 4pm pick, that's why they had to wait
until after Sky had announced their TV games to pick theirs.

It'd be interesting to see what sort of take up they're getting. Whilst
it's probably a pretty decent deal if you've got no access at present to
Premiership football, but if like me, you've already got Sky Sports and
for the last few years have been getting Prem Plus for a pound a game,
it's a crap deal (not to mention it won't be in HD either). Good excuse
to go down the pub though, I suppose :-)
--
Sean Black

Sean Black wrote:

: It'd be interesting to see what sort of take up they're getting. Whilst
: it's probably a pretty decent deal if you've got no access at present to
: Premiership football, but if like me, you've already got Sky Sports and
: for the last few years have been getting Prem Plus for a pound a game,
: it's a crap deal (not to mention it won't be in HD either). Good excuse
: to go down the pub though, I suppose :-)

Setanta are not, apparently, doing very well at all (hence the Virgin Deal,
reduction of *NEW* Sky/Freeview subscriptions to £9.95/month and no 12
months minimum). They need well over a million subscribers and have ~200,000
so far.

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
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Sean Black wrote:

: It'd be interesting to see what sort of take up they're getting. Whilst
: it's probably a pretty decent deal if you've got no access at present to
: Premiership football, but if like me, you've already got Sky Sports and
: for the last few years have been getting Prem Plus for a pound a game,
: it's a crap deal (not to mention it won't be in HD either). Good excuse
: to go down the pub though, I suppose :-)

Setanta are not, apparently, doing very well at all (hence the Virgin
Deal,
reduction of *NEW* Sky/Freeview subscriptions to £9.95/month and no 12
months minimum). They need well over a million subscribers and have
~200,000
so far.

ITVdigital anyone? I can't see them converting freeview viewers - they are
just not used to paying.

In article , steeler
writes

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
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Sean Black wrote:

: It'd be interesting to see what sort of take up they're getting. Whilst
: it's probably a pretty decent deal if you've got no access at present to
: Premiership football, but if like me, you've already got Sky Sports and
: for the last few years have been getting Prem Plus for a pound a game,
: it's a crap deal (not to mention it won't be in HD either). Good excuse
: to go down the pub though, I suppose :-)

Setanta are not, apparently, doing very well at all (hence the Virgin
Deal,
reduction of *NEW* Sky/Freeview subscriptions to £9.95/month and no 12
months minimum). They need well over a million subscribers and have
~200,000
so far.

ITVdigital anyone? I can't see them converting freeview viewers - they are
just not used to paying.


Looks like it's all going to end in tears then, well done to the EU :-)

I don't know what they hoped to achieve by making the Premier League
sell the rights the way they have. I know it was supposed to make it a
better deal for the viewer, but I can't see how it has helped anyone.
Sky viewers are now having to pay more to see the same amount of
football as they did last year.

The only way I can see it being better for the viewers is if the EU made
them make the rights non-exclusive, so anyone could put on any games, so
there'd at least be some proper competition, but I can't see any way to
do that.
--
Sean Black

"Sean Black" wrote in message
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In article , steeler
writes

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
Sean Black wrote:

: It'd be interesting to see what sort of take up they're getting.
Whilst
: it's probably a pretty decent deal if you've got no access at present
to
: Premiership football, but if like me, you've already got Sky Sports
and
: for the last few years have been getting Prem Plus for a pound a game,
: it's a crap deal (not to mention it won't be in HD either). Good
excuse
: to go down the pub though, I suppose :-)

Setanta are not, apparently, doing very well at all (hence the Virgin
Deal,
reduction of *NEW* Sky/Freeview subscriptions to £9.95/month and no 12
months minimum). They need well over a million subscribers and have
~200,000
so far.

ITVdigital anyone? I can't see them converting freeview viewers - they
are
just not used to paying.


Looks like it's all going to end in tears then, well done to the EU :-)

I don't know what they hoped to achieve by making the Premier League sell
the rights the way they have. I know it was supposed to make it a better
deal for the viewer, but I can't see how it has helped anyone. Sky viewers
are now having to pay more to see the same amount of football as they did
last year.

They hoped a terrestrial channel would win some and they would be lauded for
supplying free football to the nation. Only they could not stop pay
channels from outbidding as that would be anti-competative - the very claim
they leveled at the old method of bidding.

The only way I can see it being better for the viewers is if the EU made
them make the rights non-exclusive, so anyone could put on any games, so
there'd at least be some proper competition, but I can't see any way to do
that.
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The only way you could do that is if each club was allowed to negotiate it's
own contracts. The big clubs would love this but the little clubs would
always vote down any proposals - what with every channel wanting Man U vs.
Liverpool and nobody wanting West Ham vs. Bolton (no offence).