Calculate your carbon footprint

"mrbawana2u" wrote:
On Jul 10, 12:19 pm, "altheim" wrote:
"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote:
[...]
Anyway, you are able to use Google?
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Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
AGW is a fake and fraud and Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on
earth.

I don't deny that AGW is controversial and those of us who
accept the reality of it, for now, may one day find it was a
non-event. I just hope, if the reverse proves to be true, that
you will also be big enough to admit you were wrong.

Where we won't be wrong is the left-tards ability to do anything about
it. YOUR cure is sure to be worse than the disease. Come back and
talk to us when you have any successes altering the global climate.
Until then, go sell your snake oil in Africa.

Well loafing around complacently doing nothing while waiting for
Armageddon certainly isn't going to help. It's just going to make
the rest of the world mad at you for being an idle selfish *******.

What are you - a freakin' End of Timer?

--
altheim

"Bill Wright" wrote:
"Cynic" wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:35 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:
The GW crisis will mysteriously disappear in the same way as all the
past ones, and a new crisis will take its place. Which you will no
doubt believe just as fervently.

They'll probably have to recycle some old ones. How about

"We're all going to freeze due to global cooling, so we'll die."

"We're all going have to walk because the petrol will run out, so our feet
will hurt so much that we'll die."

"The Russians are going to bomb us so we'll die."

"We're all going to get AIDS and die."

"We're all going to get mad cow disease and die."

"We're all going to get chicken flu and die."

"Cell phone masts will give us all cancer and then we'll die."

And a really old one, "The commies will take over the world, so there'll
be a shortage of essentials and we'll die."

I think it would be simpler to bring back religion. Then we could have
hellfire and damnation, which everyone understands.

Actually, my own list of scarey things includes items never found in the
media because they aren't politically correct. I have fears that are
shared by a vast number of people, but you'll never see them discussed.
The result is that ordinary people suspect a conspiracy. It would be far
better to air these matters. The government and the meeja would rather
give us the Global Warming ******** any day than something that people are
really bothered about, like:

"Because of the differing birthrates of the UK aboriginal population and
the UK Muslim immigrant population, by 2060 this country will be
predominantly Muslim, with all that that implies for our traditional way
of life and cultural values."

Most people will agree that this is far more worrying than the possibility
of global warming, but you won't see the matter aired other than in
whispered converstaions in pubs and workplaces.

Glad you brought that up. I've been saying the same kind
of thing in various ngs for years. Islam is a juggernaut that
cannot be stopped, unless we too are prepared to die to
oppose it.

--
altheim

altheim wrote:
"mrbawana2u" wrote:
On Jul 10, 12:19 pm, "altheim" wrote:
"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote:
[...]
Anyway, you are able to use Google?
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=...oved&btnG=Goog...
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http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=altheim+idiot&meta=
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Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
AGW is a fake and fraud and Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on
earth.
I don't deny that AGW is controversial and those of us who
accept the reality of it, for now, may one day find it was a
non-event. I just hope, if the reverse proves to be true, that
you will also be big enough to admit you were wrong.
Where we won't be wrong is the left-tards ability to do anything about
it. YOUR cure is sure to be worse than the disease. Come back and
talk to us when you have any successes altering the global climate.
Until then, go sell your snake oil in Africa.

Well loafing around complacently doing nothing while waiting for
Armageddon certainly isn't going to help. It's just going to make
the rest of the world mad at you for being an idle selfish *******.

What are you - a freakin' End of Timer?

what's the difference between spending your money going to the beach and
having fun relaxing or spending your money to buy a special car or
paying extra, for special planet saving concerts... if in the end none
will cure a problem that doesn't exist.

--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out

http://OutSourcedNews.com


The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bull**** to ruin the
whole thing.

MrCheerful wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote in message
...

MrCheerful wrote:

we are overpopulated now
By what standard ?

There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know.

Graham

the carbon calculator: to get it to a sustainable level we need to cull a
sixth of the population, therefore we are over populated


War can solve that, add the coming war with china into the computer
models and that should cut a few billion.

--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out

http://OutSourcedNews.com


The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bull**** to ruin the
whole thing.

altheim wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote:
"Cynic" wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:35 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:
The GW crisis will mysteriously disappear in the same way as all the
past ones, and a new crisis will take its place. Which you will no
doubt believe just as fervently.
They'll probably have to recycle some old ones. How about

"We're all going to freeze due to global cooling, so we'll die."

"We're all going have to walk because the petrol will run out, so our feet
will hurt so much that we'll die."

"The Russians are going to bomb us so we'll die."

"We're all going to get AIDS and die."

"We're all going to get mad cow disease and die."

"We're all going to get chicken flu and die."

"Cell phone masts will give us all cancer and then we'll die."

And a really old one, "The commies will take over the world, so there'll
be a shortage of essentials and we'll die."

I think it would be simpler to bring back religion. Then we could have
hellfire and damnation, which everyone understands.

Actually, my own list of scarey things includes items never found in the
media because they aren't politically correct. I have fears that are
shared by a vast number of people, but you'll never see them discussed.
The result is that ordinary people suspect a conspiracy. It would be far
better to air these matters. The government and the meeja would rather
give us the Global Warming ******** any day than something that people are
really bothered about, like:

"Because of the differing birthrates of the UK aboriginal population and
the UK Muslim immigrant population, by 2060 this country will be
predominantly Muslim, with all that that implies for our traditional way
of life and cultural values."

Most people will agree that this is far more worrying than the possibility
of global warming, but you won't see the matter aired other than in
whispered converstaions in pubs and workplaces.

Glad you brought that up. I've been saying the same kind
of thing in various ngs for years. Islam is a juggernaut that
cannot be stopped, unless we too are prepared to die to
oppose it.

Democrats have already surrendered, so apparently only half of us would
rather die than live under Muslim religious laws.


Write off the carbon footprint of half the us population that prefer
freedom over living as Muslims.



--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out

http://OutSourcedNews.com


The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bull**** to ruin the
whole thing.

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...




But there has been a conspiricy to hide information from the public.
Look
at an ordanance survey map of Chelmsford and follow the river to the
east.

In a 1970s edition you will see the area clearly marked "Chelmer Flood
Plain", current edition now calls it Chelmer Villiage.

Because they built on it obviously !


The area marked as flood plain is much larger than the new villiage built
on part of it. The whole reference to the fact that
the large flat area on which the villiage is built on is a flood plain has
been removed.

Not all areas adjacent to rivers is subject to periodic flooding, so
removing the name which tells buyers that their home WILL flood is
dishonoust and no doubt be blaimed on global warming even though it has done
so since roman times.

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Bill Ward wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:35 +0100, Pyriform wrote:
I've discovered in previous debates an astonishing correlation between a
person using the word "greenies" in connection with an alleged global
warming conspiracy, and that person having no scientific understanding of
any kind.

Your scientific method in identifying this correlation is badly flawed. You
have only one observer (yourself) and that observer exhibits obvious gross
bias.

Bill

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Eeyore wrote:
MrCheerful wrote:

we are overpopulated now

By what standard ?

By the standard that our current civilisation depends on using stuff up
faster than it's being replaced, and thus must inevitably come to an
end, or change drastically. It may be impossible to predict exactly
when and how quickly this will happen, but it absolutely certainly
will.

There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know.

As long as you're one of the lucky ones who doesn't live in Africa.

So what do the greenies do? They tell Africa that they mustn't burn coal to
generate electricity, thus crippling their attempts to progress from their
current pre-industrial state to western-style prosperity.


Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Eeyore wrote:
MrCheerful wrote:

we are overpopulated now
By what standard ?

By the standard that our current civilisation depends on using stuff up
faster than it's being replaced, and thus must inevitably come to an
end, or change drastically. It may be impossible to predict exactly
when and how quickly this will happen, but it absolutely certainly
will.

There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know.
As long as you're one of the lucky ones who doesn't live in Africa.

So what do the greenies do? They tell Africa that they mustn't burn coal to
generate electricity, thus crippling their attempts to progress from their
current pre-industrial state to western-style prosperity.

No .... they Fly their JET to Africa and get pictures taken of them with
the people in mud huts then they tell them that they're living in
paradise and having a toaster will kill the planet, then they get back
in the airconditioned Jet and fly off to a 30,000sq ft house with 5 air
conditioners and have their Mexican housekeeper make them a cappuccino
and toast.


--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out

http://OutSourcedNews.com


The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bull**** to ruin the
whole thing.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:21:24 +0100, Pyriform wrote:

Bill Ward wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:35 +0100, Pyriform wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
The history of doom-mongering is full of such tales. I'm confident the
same will be shown to be true of AGW before long.

And how do you imagine that is going to happen? Are you confidently
predicting that atmospheric CO2 levels will spontaneously decline to
pre-industrial levels, or that the global mean temperature will
mysteriously fall or stabilise as a result of... what, exactly?

Probably keep fluctuating around as it always has. CO2 is only a minor
player.

"Probably keep fluctuating around as it always has" - and that's your
scientific assessment, is it? Of course, you are too clueless to
understand that the only reason you know anything at all about previous
climate cycles is through the work of the same field of study that is now
telling us that the current changes are acyclic.

What similarly compelling scientific evidence to that for AGW was
adduced in support of any of the previous "doom-mongering tales", do
you think?

They didn't have the budget then to generate the data they needed. It
took out-of-luck pacifists and socialists to join the greenies and raise
enough bucks for the marketing research.

I've discovered in previous debates an astonishing correlation between a
person using the word "greenies" in connection with an alleged global
warming conspiracy, and that person having no scientific understanding of
any kind. You provide additional evidence that this is indeed the case.

Well, keep trying. Your debating technique can only improve.