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Like - do you buy a TVonics PVR or a Topfield so you can download varous
"Taps" ?

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/tv/.../easeofuse.pdf

In message , Norbert
Wittgenfeld wrote
Like - do you buy a TVonics PVR or a Topfield so you can download varous
"Taps" ?


The Toppy every time. The TVonics is basic, dumbed down, machine.


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In message , Norbert
Wittgenfeld wrote


Like - do you buy a TVonics PVR or a Topfield so you can download varous
"Taps" ?

Can the TVonics now accept TAPs? I thought it was a dumbed down machine
with limited functionality - but with a remote control with more buttons
than the competition.

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Alan
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TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

The Topfield remains what it always has been an over-priced over-specified
Satellite PVR adapted for the UK's Freeview service - as it comes out of the
box ,of course.

Yes - you can add little software dongles that change the colour scheme of
the EPG and substitute some kind of "series recording" function and other
little gimmicks that give the "geeks" a buzz about "how clever am I?".And of
course it does perform the Holy Grail of functions (for some) - "Dual
Stream" recording.

Most people wouldn't and couldn't be bothered.

They want a PVR that reliably records the programmes they select on the
EPG - the TVonics does that.That is why the TVonics is on the supermarket
shelves and the Topfield isn't.

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Norbert Wittgenfeld Proclaimed from the tallest
tower:

TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

The Topfield remains what it always has been an over-priced
over-specified Satellite PVR adapted for the UK's Freeview service -
as it comes out of the box ,of course.

Yes - you can add little software dongles that change the colour
scheme of the EPG and substitute some kind of "series recording"
function and other little gimmicks that give the "geeks" a buzz about
"how clever am I?".And of course it does perform the Holy Grail of
functions (for some) - "Dual Stream" recording.

Most people wouldn't and couldn't be bothered.

They want a PVR that reliably records the programmes they select on
the EPG - the TVonics does that.That is why the TVonics is on the
supermarket shelves and the Topfield isn't.

I sense some small amount of anger in your reply... chill out and be calm,
man...

I'm not a toppy fan, in fact, I don't even own a PVR at present, however, it
seems to me that it is 'horses for courses'.
If you want a 'PVR that reliably records the programmes...on the EPG' and is
simple to use then go and buy a TVonics.
If you want a PVR with load of 'customisability' then buy a Toppy.

What's the problem?


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Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)

"Norbert Wittgenfeld" wrote in message
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TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

The Topfield remains what it always has been an over-priced
over-specified Satellite PVR adapted for the UK's Freeview service - as it
comes out of the box ,of course.

Yes - you can add little software dongles that change the colour scheme of
the EPG and substitute some kind of "series recording" function and other
little gimmicks that give the "geeks" a buzz about "how clever am I?".And
of course it does perform the Holy Grail of functions (for some) - "Dual
Stream" recording.

and what do you mean by Dual Stream recording?

Recording two channels at once?

If you do,

1) they all do that except for the very cheapest boxes
2) not having it is IME a right PITA and I would put this
feature on the must have list for everybody, not a few.

tim

In article ,
Norbert Wittgenfeld wrote:
TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

The Topfield remains what it always has been an over-priced
over-specified Satellite PVR adapted for the UK's Freeview service - as
it comes out of the box ,of course.

Yes - you can add little software dongles that change the colour scheme
of the EPG and substitute some kind of "series recording" function and
other little gimmicks that give the "geeks" a buzz about "how clever am
I?".And of course it does perform the Holy Grail of functions (for
some) - "Dual Stream" recording.

Most people wouldn't and couldn't be bothered.

I regularly use the dual recording feature. Wouldn't be without it now.
You obviously have never had the facility.

They want a PVR that reliably records the programmes they select on the
EPG - the TVonics does that.That is why the TVonics is on the
supermarket shelves and the Topfield isn't.

Tee hee. Supermarkets sell end of range and other cheap mostly junk. But
if it satisfies you, fine.

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*A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Norbert Wittgenfeld wrote:
TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

This is a technical newsgroup. You are out of your depth. Find somewhere
else?

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Adrian C

In message , Norbert
Wittgenfeld wrote


TVonics - "dumbed down" is it? Typical Toppy snobbery.

No, just a comment on the link you posted and the previous statements
you've made about the TVonics. People can understand basic boxes better
than those with more features so the Tvonics may score higher on the
usability scale for the certain sections of our society. The TVonics has
its place in the market while most other boxes may appeal to those who
want more from their equipment and can understand how to use them.


The Topfield remains what it always has been an over-priced over-specified
Satellite

Why are you comparing a satellite PVR with a Freeview PVR. Do you still
believe all those details on the web site that you are so fond of
promoting? The one where they had to correct a lot of information.

PVR adapted for the UK's Freeview service - as it comes out of the
box ,of course.

Isn't it strange how my Topfield Freeview PVR worked straight out of the
box.


Yes - you can add little software dongles that change the colour scheme of
the EPG

Not just the colour scheme but the whole graphical interface.

and substitute some kind of "series recording" function

Er, wasn't it you that posted the review link that said that TVonics
(allegedly) had a 'series link function' and then the reviewers admitted
that they couldn't test it? The reviewers were sure that it worked

and other
little gimmicks

Be assured that some of the gimmicks are big and some of the small ones
work very well.

that give the "geeks" a buzz about "how clever am I?
".And of
course it does perform the Holy Grail of functions (for some) - "Dual
Stream" recording.

Do you mean recording two channels at once? Doesn't the TVonics do
this? I believe that this trick is not limited to the Topfield and some
bottom end of market machines can do the same.


Most people wouldn't and couldn't be bothered.

Yes this correct in my case. I couldn't be bothered to go and manually
set up dual recordings. I set up my machine to search for programs
weeks, months or years ahead and let it automatically decide if its
going to record two things at once rather than ignoring one of them.

They want a PVR that reliably records the programmes they select on
the EPG - the TVonics does that.That is why the TVonics is on the
supermarket shelves and the Topfield isn't.

Are you saying that if a box isn't sold in a supermarket it cannot
record from a selection in the EPG?

Don't all PVR record from a EPG selection? Just because boxes can do
much more it doesn't mean they don't also have the basic features found
on the TVonics.

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Alan
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I think lots of people buy the piece of equipment that they think
suits them best, given their own pattern of usage and what they want
to achieve with it.

Not so difficult, is it?

But you're banging on about the Topfield and Taps again - you might
have changed your display name, but the email address is the same, so
I presume you're still the same curious man that made up plenty of
rubbish in the past about boxes - chiefly Topfield and Humax - that
you seem to believe get unfairly talked about, in preference to the
TVonics.

So, please do enlighten us. What's your particular fixation?