Night scenes in movies to dark

Another thing I have noticed using the same hdtv or regular tv the
scenes are much darker using the dish than over the air reception.
Therefore using the Dish on the hdtv night scenes are almost totally
black. Also thanks for the info. I will try the black level and the
contrast.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:37:47 GMT Alan F wrote:

| BILL wrote:
| I have an LCD hdtv 32" RCA. Is there anyway you can lighten up scenes
| that take place at night? I have tried the black expand thing, the color
| and contrast. I have heard that LCD sets have this problem but hell
| sometimes you can"t even tell whats going on it is so bad. Thanks in
| advance for any info.
|
| Bill
|
| Low black levels have been a major weakness of LCD TVs. In the past
| several years, the higher end models have made major strides in reducing
| black crush and lowering the minimum black level, but this is still
| trickling down to the lower end models. The LCDs still trail the plasmas
| from Pioneer, Panasonic, and Samsung in this aspect. Does your RCA
| screen look grey or whitish on black scenes? Does it look like it is
| glowing when you are off axis for black backgrounds?

It would be at least a cheap work around to have a gamma adjustment to
raise the curve at black level. It would, of course, make things more
light, but at least detail might be available.


| Probably not that much you can do about it without getting a new HD
| TV, but you might want to try a calibration DVD such as "Digital Video
| Essentials" which is $17 at amazon. The DVD is also useful for
| calibrating your sound system. Won't totally fix your problem, but may
| make it not as bad.

Is there an HD version of that suitable for testing HD sets in stores
to see how they behave at each of the 36 ATSC formats plus others that
HD/BR-DVDs would have?

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I'm amazed at the prices on the new 1080p models from the well known
leaders in plasma technology.

The new Viera 1080p 50" plasma, which came out in April and retails
for US$3499, is down to US$2350 on Amazon new.
That's insane.

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:23:33 -0700, ninphan wrote:

I'm amazed at the prices on the new 1080p models from the well known
leaders in plasma technology.

The new Viera 1080p 50" plasma, which came out in April and retails
for US$3499, is down to US$2350 on Amazon new.
That's insane.

And it's still at least $1350 more than I'd pay for it.:-)


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wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:37:47 GMT Alan F wrote:

| BILL wrote:
| I have an LCD hdtv 32" RCA. Is there anyway you can lighten up scenes
| that take place at night? I have tried the black expand thing, the color
| and contrast. I have heard that LCD sets have this problem but hell
| sometimes you can"t even tell whats going on it is so bad. Thanks in
| advance for any info.
|
| Bill
|
| Low black levels have been a major weakness of LCD TVs. In the past
| several years, the higher end models have made major strides in reducing
| black crush and lowering the minimum black level, but this is still
| trickling down to the lower end models. The LCDs still trail the plasmas
| from Pioneer, Panasonic, and Samsung in this aspect. Does your RCA
| screen look grey or whitish on black scenes? Does it look like it is
| glowing when you are off axis for black backgrounds?

It would be at least a cheap work around to have a gamma adjustment to
raise the curve at black level. It would, of course, make things more
light, but at least detail might be available.


| Probably not that much you can do about it without getting a new HD
| TV, but you might want to try a calibration DVD such as "Digital Video
| Essentials" which is $17 at amazon. The DVD is also useful for
| calibrating your sound system. Won't totally fix your problem, but may
| make it not as bad.

Is there an HD version of that suitable for testing HD sets in stores
to see how they behave at each of the 36 ATSC formats plus others that
HD/BR-DVDs would have?

There is a combo HD-DVD & DVD version of Digital Video Essentials.
Don't know what is added, but I expect a search will turn up info.

Alan F