16:9 Stretch Distortion

On 7/14/07 3:42 PM, SAC 441 wrote:
I recently purchased a Samsung HL-5676S
1080p capable DLP television/monitor.I am
at this time viewing only NTSC signals off of
DirecTV and C-Band as I do not have an HD
source as yet.
The problem is I cannot get used to the 16:9
aspect ratio because it looks distorted side to side when I view a movie
or sports event,so I elect 98% of the time to use the 4:3 selection.
My question is,is there anyway to minimize this
effect when using 16:9 so I don't have to watch with side bars on the
screen? I have tried both of the zoom modes,but it makes people look
stretched vertically the opposite way than the 16:9 setting.I am not
sure I like the so-called
"new" TV technology.


The only 16.9 tvs that stretch sd channels to my satisfaction are
plasmas, in particular Pioneer PureVision line (my friend's Hitachi does
a good job too). You might want to return it and get a good plasma. I
haven't seen any LCD's that do sd well like plasma. I am surprised this
is not more well known and that plasma commercials don't point this up.

Dan

"Dan" wrote:


The only 16.9 tvs that stretch sd
channels to my satisfaction are plasmas,
in particular Pioneer PureVision line (my
friend's Hitachi does a good job too).
You might want to return it and get a
good plasma. I haven't seen any LCD's
that do sd well like plasma. I am
surprised this is not more well known
and that plasma commercials don't point
this up.

Why the surprise? The commercials are focusing on selling HD capability
and newer tv technology. Despite the plasma's improved ability to render
SD content, SD remains just that, namely SD. HD is what sells in today's
competitive HDTV market.

In article (SAC 441) writes:

Thanks for the replies.As to what is wrong with
side bars,nothing really.I just find it funny that I cannot use part of
the TV I am paying for.

You bought a set with an ATSC tuner, so you paid for it. Clearly, if you
are as far from signals as you claim, you cannot use it -- so why did you buy
it?

I really should not feed the trolls.

Alan

A poster named Alan asked:
----"You bought a set with an ATSC tuner,so you paid for it.Clearly,if
you as far from signals as you claim,you cannot use it -- so why did you
buy it?

I really should not feed the trolls."----


Reply:
After 18 years of heavy use,my old Zenith
52 inch lenticular screen RPTV quit abruptly
and all three color guns died.I had to replace the set quickly.I am an
avid sports enthusiast
and I have several expensive DirecTV sports packages of which MLB Extra
Innings is one.
I am not going to let them go to waste by procrastinating in the
decision of which set I am going to buy.
I went into my local Sears outlet and found that they had a sale on
this particular DLP set.It had most of the features I wanted so I bought
it.
I eventually want to get high definition programming,but when that day
comes,it will come via satellite and DirecTV.Now that I have the ATSC
capability and it appears that my local channels are indeed available
via the
Spaceway Ka/Ku satellites I probably will get it in the next few months.
I just said I cannot get terrestrially delivered
over the air signals via a conventional antenna
without major expense.I have had satellite
reception since 1985.Starting with C-Band
and now DirecTV as an add-on.I also have
DVB free to air satellite reception via a Pansat receiver.In addition,as
soon as I can locate an
HDD-200 or 201 HD decoder module,I will add HD capability to my C-Band
setup also (as an add-on to my GI/Motorola model 920 4DTV satellite
receiver that is C and Ku-Band).
Does this answer your query?

I don't really need over the air signals.I have
about 1450 channels via other means.

SAC 441 wrote:

Thanks for the replies.As to what is wrong with
side bars,nothing really.I just find it funny that I cannot use part of
the TV I am paying for.
Essentially at this time,(I probably will get HD
within the year) I guess I will just have to use
4:3 mode until I get it.


What you paid for and are not using is Hi Def. You also paid for
standard def and that comes in 4:3....period.

In article ,
(Alan) wrote:

You bought a set with an ATSC tuner, so you paid for it. Clearly, if you
are as far from signals as you claim, you cannot use it -- so why did you buy
it?

I really should not feed the trolls.

It's not really a troll. He probably paid $400 for an HDMI cable too.
Stupid is all. He missed where it said "HD source required."
--
W. Oates

"SAC 441" wrote in message
...

My question is,is there anyway to minimize this
effect when using 16:9 so I don't have to watch with side bars on the
screen?



I'm not sure, but my set has a feature that focuses the stretching feature
more to the outer edges of the picture. That way the central person or
object of focus doesn't get distorted that much.
People don't look like their foreheads are stretched, and the stretching is
barely noticeable on the sides of the screen.

"SAC 441" wrote

....I am not sure I like the so-called "new" TV technology.

Well if you bought a Corvette and forced it to cough along on regular gas
you probably wouldn't like Corvettes either. These TVs were designed for one
thing only: display an HD image. They have an SD capacity because
manufacturers know that the broadcasting reality is that a lot of our
programs will be in this format for the forseeable future, although there is
more and more HD all the time.

In spite of the egotistical negativism of a couple of our newsgroup
participants, there are good anthropomorphic reasons for the wide-screen
layout. Of course, 16 by 9 is not the only possible ratio, but it is
probably as good as any. This kind of discussion is I think OT on a
technical newsgroup like this but I had no trouble googling some interesting
research findings.

On 7/14/07 8:56 PM, Steve Curtis wrote:
"Dan" wrote:


The only 16.9 tvs that stretch sd
channels to my satisfaction are plasmas,
in particular Pioneer PureVision line (my
friend's Hitachi does a good job too).
You might want to return it and get a
good plasma. I haven't seen any LCD's
that do sd well like plasma. I am
surprised this is not more well known
and that plasma commercials don't point
this up.

Why the surprise? The commercials are focusing on selling HD capability
and newer tv technology. Despite the plasma's improved ability to render
SD content, SD remains just that, namely SD. HD is what sells in today's
competitive HDTV market.


Because there is hardly any HD content in the USA at this point.

Tam/WB2TT wrote:


You must have other than just these two view modes. I use the one that crops
off a slight amount top and bottom, and does a non linear stretch on what is
left. Don't know about Samsung, but Sharp and Sony allow what I am doing.

Tam



I am an old-fashioned sort of guy. I like to see exactly what the
producers broadcast to me.