39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.

Hertz Dount wrote:
Only a liberal would say "there are no rules"....

True. A conservative will acknowledge that the rules exist, but insist
that they don’t apply to him.

Hertz Dount wrote:

"George Graves" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:42:56 -0700, none wrote
(in article ):



James Davis wrote:



Right now about 30% of Americans are very happy with President Bush,
who was elected by a 51% majority.


incorrect, Gore won the election by the "majority" of the american
public, only in how the electoral college is setup did, bush sneak in.



While I personally believe he's a
moron, there is no rule that says it's undemocratic for a president to
only please 30% of the population.


duh! but it's unprecedented to have such a poor performing president in
american history.


Unprecedented, it might be. Illegal, it is not. Robert Bolt once wrote a
play
called "A man for all Seasons" in which Sir Thomas Moore, Chancelor of
England was having a philosophical argument with his daughter's fiance, a
young lawyer named Roper about an unwanted house guest who had just left:

*Roper: Sir Thomas, arrest that man, he is bad.
Sir Thomas: On what charge?
Roper: Charge? He's evil.
Sir Thomas: There's no law against that.
Daughter: While you two argue, he's gone.
Sir Thomas: And go he should, until he's broken the law.
Roper: I suppose now that you would give the Devil the benefit of the law?
Sir Thomas: Wouldn't you?
Roper: NO. I'd cut down every law in England to get after the Devil.
Sir Thomas: And with the laws all cut down, and the Devil turned 'round
upon
you, Where would you hide then, young Roper; the laws all being flat? This
country is planted thick with laws, God's laws and man's and if we cut
them
down to go after ANY Devil, who could stand in the wind that would then
blow?Yes, I'd give the Devil the benefit of the law, FOR MY OWN SAFETY'S
SAKE!

*This is paraphrased from memory, I don't have the text handy, but this is
the gist of the conversation

Sage words, and worth remembering. Bush is the worst president in US
history,
yet go he should until he breaks the law, and we cannot circumvent the law
just to rid ourselves of a terrible leader. If we do, we'll have more
serious
problems that simply a bad president.

Also, we need to be careful that we don't elect a worse one simply because
the candidate isn't George Bush. I'm very afraid that we might just do
that.




Well spoken. I shudder at the thought of an amateur like Obama or a
vacilator like Billary gaining office.


You should shutter that this Inept and Criminally Negligent Admin has
allowed Al Quadia to rebuild
to a strength they achieved before 9/11. Of all the complete fukk ups
these people have done,
this is the MOST DANGEROUS and negligent of all, and all the lives lost
going after someone who was no threat to us.
But the ones who actually attacked us are free and have rebuilt. If this
Iraq War and allowing Al Quadia
rebuild to pre 9/11 strength was a Dem there would be impeachments
flying all over Washington and the
NeoCONS would be screaming out of every window in Washington. Fukkin
shameful.

You are worried about "amateurs"?!?! OMG the people could only wish to
be amateur.
They are utterly inept and a grave danger to our country and our lives
our civil rights,
to our national treasure, and our standing in the world..
Again fukkin shameful. Any life lost to Al Quadia in the future will be
squarely on
the shoulders of the Bush Admin.

Honu




There could be some time in the
future where angering 70% of the population is the right thing to do.
If you had to please the majority of people, then we wouldn't even
elect presidents. We would just vote on issues and the majority vote
would decide what to do.

It would be unfair to the 30% of Americans who like Bush to impeach
him unless he has done something illegal. He won the vote, so he is
the president. Besides, he doesn't have any power to do anything that
70% of Congress disagrees with. If his actions are so bad, they can
be democratically overridden by others.

You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are
giving you the results you want.









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Sam Spade wrote:


Clinton didn't pardon/commute anyone who was going after him, did he?
There is a difference. But do I remember at least one of Clinton's
was a flat out crook, right?
And should of never got pardoned.




My comment was nonspecific. Both Clinton a Reagan pardoened people
for political/personal reasons who shouldn't have been pardoned.


This Scooter deal is so transparent. Cheney calls the shots on
everything, and especially on this one.

Shooting that old man in the face, then refusing to be interviewed by
the Sheriff for 24 hours was too.
Makers Mark and a firearm don't mix. Especially when you are prone to
shoot anything that moves anyway.
Then add to the mix that disgusting, sadistic cage hunt. Shooting
planted birds. Frikkin Creepy and Sick man.

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Hertz Dount wrote:

"bearman" wrote in message
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"Hertz Dount" wrote in message
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You have just one problem:

In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses.

Ball is back in your court...

Honu


The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are
no rules.



Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat
myself....


Look around where the NeoCONS have us after 7 years......................
Oh yea, that smell is............... someone hasn't cleaned the toilet
we find our country,
our place in the world, our rights, our credibility and our national
treasure in.



Honu






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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:07:01 -0400, "Richard"
wrote:

Clinton was Impeached (a Constitutional term equal to indited Congress).
Congress then failed in the vote to remove him from office.

More specifically, as required by the Constitution, he was
impeached by the House of Representatives and then the Senate
failed to convict.

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:37:01 -0600, "bearman"
wrote:


"Hertz Dount" wrote in message
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You have just one problem:

In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses.


The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no
rules.

Close, but no cigar.

The House has to say it's "treason, bribery, or other high crimes
and misdemeanors".

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On 2007-07-12 09:31:47 -0400, "Hertz Dount" said:


"none" wrote in message
...
G-squared wrote:

You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are
giving you the results you want.

Perhaps you remember the 2004 election where he did indeed get 51% of
the popular vote.

but we'll never know that for sure....

Wow! There are still idiots crying because they think Gore should have been
elected.

In 2004? What alternative universe do you live in? (don't I wish)

On 2007-07-12 09:33:48 -0400, "Hertz Dount" said:

I shudder at the thought of an amateur like Obama or a
vacilator like Billary gaining office.

Somehow, I can't see how any Democrat in the field could possibly be
worse than the last few Republicans.

On 2007-07-12 09:30:05 -0400, "Hertz Dount" said:

In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses.

Bull****. All that's needed to impeach is a vindictive Congress. That
was demonstrated conclusively in 1998.

The House has to say it's "treason, bribery, or other high crimes
and misdemeanors".


"or other high crimes and misdemeanors" kinda broadens the field, doesn't
it.

Bearman