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Thumper wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:20:31 -0400, sechumlib wrote: On 2007-07-11 14:00:55 -0400, George Graves said: Try done at all! Since re-election, Bush has done NOTHING except defend his actions in Iraq. Oh, that's not quite right. Just after his reelection, he announced that he had a mandate and was going to take full advantage of it. And he has! He's done everything his mandate permitted. ;-) Most of it, he's done very badly indeed. He tried to pass the immigration bill. Thumper In concert with Ted Kennedy. But, like everything else the Bushman does, he screwed that one up, too. Secrecy, defying the will of the people, and so forth. |
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Clinton didn't pardon/commute anyone who was going after him, did he? There is a difference. But do I remember at least one of Clinton's was a flat out crook, right? And should of never got pardoned. My comment was nonspecific. Both Clinton a Reagan pardoened people for political/personal reasons who shouldn't have been pardoned. This Scooter deal is so transparent. Cheney calls the shots on everything, and especially on this one. |
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"Sparrow" wrote in message ps.com... Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu |
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"none" wrote in message ... G-squared wrote: You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are giving you the results you want. Perhaps you remember the 2004 election where he did indeed get 51% of the popular vote. but we'll never know that for sure.... Wow! There are still idiots crying because they think Gore should have been elected. But then again, they identify with Gore because he is an idiot.... Honu |
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"George Graves" wrote in message . net... On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:42:56 -0700, none wrote (in article ): James Davis wrote: Right now about 30% of Americans are very happy with President Bush, who was elected by a 51% majority. incorrect, Gore won the election by the "majority" of the american public, only in how the electoral college is setup did, bush sneak in. While I personally believe he's a moron, there is no rule that says it's undemocratic for a president to only please 30% of the population. duh! but it's unprecedented to have such a poor performing president in american history. Unprecedented, it might be. Illegal, it is not. Robert Bolt once wrote a play called "A man for all Seasons" in which Sir Thomas Moore, Chancelor of England was having a philosophical argument with his daughter's fiance, a young lawyer named Roper about an unwanted house guest who had just left: *Roper: Sir Thomas, arrest that man, he is bad. Sir Thomas: On what charge? Roper: Charge? He's evil. Sir Thomas: There's no law against that. Daughter: While you two argue, he's gone. Sir Thomas: And go he should, until he's broken the law. Roper: I suppose now that you would give the Devil the benefit of the law? Sir Thomas: Wouldn't you? Roper: NO. I'd cut down every law in England to get after the Devil. Sir Thomas: And with the laws all cut down, and the Devil turned 'round upon you, Where would you hide then, young Roper; the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, God's laws and man's and if we cut them down to go after ANY Devil, who could stand in the wind that would then blow?Yes, I'd give the Devil the benefit of the law, FOR MY OWN SAFETY'S SAKE! *This is paraphrased from memory, I don't have the text handy, but this is the gist of the conversation Sage words, and worth remembering. Bush is the worst president in US history, yet go he should until he breaks the law, and we cannot circumvent the law just to rid ourselves of a terrible leader. If we do, we'll have more serious problems that simply a bad president. Also, we need to be careful that we don't elect a worse one simply because the candidate isn't George Bush. I'm very afraid that we might just do that. Well spoken. I shudder at the thought of an amateur like Obama or a vacilator like Billary gaining office. Honu There could be some time in the future where angering 70% of the population is the right thing to do. If you had to please the majority of people, then we wouldn't even elect presidents. We would just vote on issues and the majority vote would decide what to do. It would be unfair to the 30% of Americans who like Bush to impeach him unless he has done something illegal. He won the vote, so he is the president. Besides, he doesn't have any power to do anything that 70% of Congress disagrees with. If his actions are so bad, they can be democratically overridden by others. You can't just do away with the rules of democracy because they are giving you the results you want. |
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"Richard C." wrote in message . .. "none" wrote in message ... James Davis wrote: Right now about 30% of Americans are very happy with President Bush, who was elected by a 51% majority. incorrect, Gore won the election by the "majority" of the american public, only in how the electoral college is setup did, bush sneak in. ============================== Bull****! Bush got 51% of the popular vote in 2004. Spreading and repeating a lie does not make it true..... So why are you still trying? Honu |
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"Hertz Dount" wrote in message news:[email protected] net... "Sparrow" wrote in message ps.com... Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. -- Bearman America: Land of the free because of the brave. |
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"bearman" wrote in message . .. "Hertz Dount" wrote in message news:[email protected] net... "Sparrow" wrote in message ps.com... Read all about it, he http://Muvy.org You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat myself.... Honu |
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You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat myself.... You have no idea what my political views are so why don't you just grow the **** up. Bye-Bye. -- Bearman "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." |
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"bearman" wrote in message . .. You have just one problem: In order to impeach, there must be impeachable offenses. Ball is back in your court... Honu The House just has to say something is an impeachable offense. There are no rules. Spoken like a true liberal....and a true idiot. But wait, I repeat myself.... You have no idea what my political views are so why don't you just grow the **** up. Bye-Bye. And based upon your reaction and language, I hit a nerve. The old adage "If it walks like a duck..." certainly applies here. Only a liberal would say "there are no rules".... Bye Bye to you...you won't be missed. Honu |
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