Run HDMI from DVD to TV. What about audio?

I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

k-man wrote:
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

If you're wanting to have the audio from your DVD player playing through
your receiver and not the TV, then, as you suggest, you should be able
to mute the audio from your T.V. through a menu selection and use an
optical cable to pickup the DVD audio. You will still need the HDMI
cable for upscaling standard-def DVDs. Otherwise, you could just use
component cables.

R. Tarin

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:35:07 -0700, k-man wrote:

Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
In a word, yes. Don't have your DVD player, but pick the best audio
out that the TV will accept.
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection?
Turn the TV volume down when using the DVD player.
Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?
Similarly, I also made the HDMI connection between my STB and my TV,
as well as the (next) best audio out which I sent to the receiver.
That way, when watching HDTV I can either use the TV's speakers or the
Home theater set up

For my setup (TV - off the air antenna,DVD player, Receiver/Amp).

TV has 'speaker - OFF' (in menu), this is different than 'mute'.
Optical cable for audio from TV to receiver (used for OTA TV reception)
HDMI from DVD player to TV (also carries audio, but not used as speaker in
TV is OFF)
Optical cable from DVD Player to receiver for audio.

Supposedly there can be a lip sync problem if you send Standard DVD to the
TV where the TV does the up converting to its native resolution and send the
audio to your receiver. It is possible that the processing time in the TV is
long enough to notice that the sound comes out before the picture. If you
use the up converting in the DVD player instead then again supposedly that
can be compensated for.
I doubt that is the case, however I have never done any side/side
comparisons - from whence come flame wars.

If you use HDMI from up converting DVD player to a new HD TV, then you can
have the up converter do its job on all DVD's. If you use component instead
then the DVD player will not up convert to HD parameters for copy protected
DVDs (a legal thing).

For your setup of just DVD player and TV no amp at present, run HDMI from
DVD player to TV, will carry audio along, use TV speakers (note that in
general they are not particularly good.)

You did not mention what other source you will use (antenna, cable etc)
however if you are using a settop box that has HDMI out then you will also
want to use that, meaning that your TV should have at least 2 HDMI inputs.

Do NOT buy your HDMI cables from your local TV store! Way too expensive. Go
to the net and buy there. I got a 6' HDMI from an Amazon.com link for $2
plus $6 shipping.

Michael


"k-man" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

Michael is right about the lip-sync problem. It is understood that this has
been fixed in Ver 1.3
Wayne

"Michael Walraven" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
For my setup (TV - off the air antenna,DVD player, Receiver/Amp).

TV has 'speaker - OFF' (in menu), this is different than 'mute'.
Optical cable for audio from TV to receiver (used for OTA TV reception)
HDMI from DVD player to TV (also carries audio, but not used as speaker in
TV is OFF)
Optical cable from DVD Player to receiver for audio.

Supposedly there can be a lip sync problem if you send Standard DVD to the
TV where the TV does the up converting to its native resolution and send
the audio to your receiver. It is possible that the processing time in the
TV is long enough to notice that the sound comes out before the picture.
If you use the up converting in the DVD player instead then again
supposedly that can be compensated for.
I doubt that is the case, however I have never done any side/side
comparisons - from whence come flame wars.

If you use HDMI from up converting DVD player to a new HD TV, then you can
have the up converter do its job on all DVD's. If you use component
instead then the DVD player will not up convert to HD parameters for copy
protected DVDs (a legal thing).

For your setup of just DVD player and TV no amp at present, run HDMI from
DVD player to TV, will carry audio along, use TV speakers (note that in
general they are not particularly good.)

You did not mention what other source you will use (antenna, cable etc)
however if you are using a settop box that has HDMI out then you will also
want to use that, meaning that your TV should have at least 2 HDMI inputs.

Do NOT buy your HDMI cables from your local TV store! Way too expensive.
Go to the net and buy there. I got a 6' HDMI from an Amazon.com link for
$2 plus $6 shipping.

Michael


"k-man" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:43:42 GMT, Randell Tarin
wrote:

k-man wrote:
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

If you're wanting to have the audio from your DVD player playing through
your receiver and not the TV, then, as you suggest, you should be able
to mute the audio from your T.V. through a menu selection and use an
optical cable to pickup the DVD audio. You will still need the HDMI
cable for upscaling standard-def DVDs. Otherwise, you could just use
component cables.


Maybe someone can check my memory on this, but I'm pretty sure that I
had to disconnect the HDMI cable that I temporarily ran from my DVD
player to my TV because, once I had the HDMI cable connected, I could
no longer set my (Sony Bravia) TV to one of its aspect ratios when
watching DVDs.

As I remember it, I'm pretty sure the problem was that I could no
longer watch 4x3 DVDs at 4x3 ratio when the DVD player was connected
via HDMI cable.

Does that sound right or familiar to anyone?

I cannot comment directly on the Sony machine, I have a LG 42LB5DF 1080p TV,
LG DN798 DVD player.
Using HDMI on this setup does not preclude any of the aspect ratios that the
TV provides. (4:3 16:9 'set by program' and two zooms)

Michael

"dgates" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:43:42 GMT, Randell Tarin
wrote:

k-man wrote:
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin

If you're wanting to have the audio from your DVD player playing through
your receiver and not the TV, then, as you suggest, you should be able
to mute the audio from your T.V. through a menu selection and use an
optical cable to pickup the DVD audio. You will still need the HDMI
cable for upscaling standard-def DVDs. Otherwise, you could just use
component cables.


Maybe someone can check my memory on this, but I'm pretty sure that I
had to disconnect the HDMI cable that I temporarily ran from my DVD
player to my TV because, once I had the HDMI cable connected, I could
no longer set my (Sony Bravia) TV to one of its aspect ratios when
watching DVDs.

As I remember it, I'm pretty sure the problem was that I could no
longer watch 4x3 DVDs at 4x3 ratio when the DVD player was connected
via HDMI cable.

Does that sound right or familiar to anyone?

You asked me about more details for my setup. I have a Sharp Aquos
LC-46D62U (it's got 2 HDMI inputs) and I'm picking up digital signals
over the air. No cable, no cable box. The amp I'm thinking of
getting is an Onkyo SR605. I might be able to just run everything
through that amp's HDMI input (2 HDMI's in, 1 out). But I don't yet
fully understand how that amp will treat the video signal (whether it
will attempt to upscale it or what). That's why I wanted to know
about running HDMI directly to the TV and re-routing audio from the TV
back to the amp (just to do some homework, see what my options will
be).

Someone else mentioned that the OPPO 981 has additional audio outputs
(besides the HDMI feed). So, I might be better off just running audio
from the DVD player to the amp directly. Also, because of being
reminded about the copy protection circuitry, now I'm even wondering
if I would be able to use the optical audio out from the TV if I'm
using an HDMI source. I should check the manual again.

For HDMI cables, right... you don't need anything fancy. It's a
digital signal. If you're able to get a picture and there are no drop-
out's, you're golden.

Thanks again.
Kevin


On Jul 11, 9:27 am, "Michael Walraven"
wrote:
For my setup (TV - off the air antenna,DVD player, Receiver/Amp).

TV has 'speaker - OFF' (in menu), this is different than 'mute'.
Optical cable for audio from TV to receiver (used for OTA TV reception)
HDMI from DVD player to TV (also carries audio, but not used as speaker in
TV is OFF)
Optical cable from DVD Player to receiver for audio.

Supposedly there can be a lip sync problem if you send Standard DVD to the
TV where the TV does the up converting to its native resolution and send the
audio to your receiver. It is possible that the processing time in the TV is
long enough to notice that the sound comes out before the picture. If you
use the up converting in the DVD player instead then again supposedly that
can be compensated for.
I doubt that is the case, however I have never done any side/side
comparisons - from whence come flame wars.

If you use HDMI from up converting DVD player to a new HD TV, then you can
have the up converter do its job on all DVD's. If you use component instead
then the DVD player will not up convert to HD parameters for copy protected
DVDs (a legal thing).

For your setup of just DVD player and TV no amp at present, run HDMI from
DVD player to TV, will carry audio along, use TV speakers (note that in
general they are not particularly good.)

You did not mention what other source you will use (antenna, cable etc)
however if you are using a settop box that has HDMI out then you will also
want to use that, meaning that your TV should have at least 2 HDMI inputs.

Do NOT buy your HDMI cables from your local TV store! Way too expensive. Go
to the net and buy there. I got a 6' HDMI from an Amazon.com link for $2
plus $6 shipping.

Michael

"k-man" wrote in message

oups.com...



I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin- Hide quoted text -

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Version 1.3 of what, HDMI? How?

Thanks.
Kevin


On Jul 11, 9:41 am, "WGD" wrote:
Michael is right about the lip-sync problem. It is understood that this has
been fixed in Ver 1.3
Wayne

"Michael Walraven" wrote in message

news:[email protected]



For my setup (TV - off the air antenna,DVD player, Receiver/Amp).

TV has 'speaker - OFF' (in menu), this is different than 'mute'.
Optical cable for audio from TV to receiver (used for OTA TV reception)
HDMI from DVD player to TV (also carries audio, but not used as speaker in
TV is OFF)
Optical cable from DVD Player to receiver for audio.

Supposedly there can be a lip sync problem if you send Standard DVD to the
TV where the TV does the up converting to its native resolution and send
the audio to your receiver. It is possible that the processing time in the
TV is long enough to notice that the sound comes out before the picture.
If you use the up converting in the DVD player instead then again
supposedly that can be compensated for.
I doubt that is the case, however I have never done any side/side
comparisons - from whence come flame wars.

If you use HDMI from up converting DVD player to a new HD TV, then you can
have the up converter do its job on all DVD's. If you use component
instead then the DVD player will not up convert to HD parameters for copy
protected DVDs (a legal thing).

For your setup of just DVD player and TV no amp at present, run HDMI from
DVD player to TV, will carry audio along, use TV speakers (note that in
general they are not particularly good.)

You did not mention what other source you will use (antenna, cable etc)
however if you are using a settop box that has HDMI out then you will also
want to use that, meaning that your TV should have at least 2 HDMI inputs.

Do NOT buy your HDMI cables from your local TV store! Way too expensive.
Go to the net and buy there. I got a 6' HDMI from an Amazon.com link for
$2 plus $6 shipping.

Michael

"k-man" wrote in message
roups.com...
I'm thinking of getting the latest Oppo DVD player and, for the best
possible picture, connecting it via HDMI directly to my new HD LCD.
Question: What do I do with the audio? My TV's got an optical-out.
Do I feed the optical-out from my TV into my receiver (which I also
don't have yet)? Is that going to cause sync problems? Or, do I run
HDMI from the DVD player to the TV and, at the same time, run fiber
from the DVD player to the receiver (if it even lets me do that)?
And, if I do that, then what becomes of the audio from the HDMI
connection? Maybe my TV's got a "no audio" feature besides mute (I
guess for that I can check the TV's menu). Anyhow, anybody have any
insight, anybody dealt with a similar scenario?

Thanks!
Kevin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"k-man" wrote in message
ups.com...
You asked me about more details for my setup. I have a Sharp Aquos
LC-46D62U (it's got 2 HDMI inputs) and I'm picking up digital signals
over the air. No cable, no cable box. The amp I'm thinking of
getting is an Onkyo SR605. I might be able to just run everything
through that amp's HDMI input (2 HDMI's in, 1 out). But I don't yet
fully understand how that amp will treat the video signal (whether it
will attempt to upscale it or what). That's why I wanted to know
about running HDMI directly to the TV and re-routing audio from the TV
back to the amp (just to do some homework, see what my options will
be).

Someone else mentioned that the OPPO 981 has additional audio outputs
(besides the HDMI feed). So, I might be better off just running audio
from the DVD player to the amp directly. Also, because of being
reminded about the copy protection circuitry, now I'm even wondering
if I would be able to use the optical audio out from the TV if I'm
using an HDMI source. I should check the manual again.

For HDMI cables, right... you don't need anything fancy. It's a
digital signal. If you're able to get a picture and there are no drop-
out's, you're golden.


I have the Onkyo SR605 and a Panny Plasma. For HDMI inputs the SR605 will
directly pass the video signals with no processing. The SR605 only applies
video processing on analog inputs to allow 720p on the HDMI output.

You will also need to send the TVs audio back to the SR605 for over the air
programming (optical or analog).

The SR605 has worked flawlessly so far, and has excellent sound.