Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.

Bill Wright wrote:
Thirty years ago the scientific papers were telling us about global
cooling! No wonder I'm sceptical!

That's not true, Bill. The *newspapers* might have been telling you
that, but the science certainly wasn't:

There were lots of documentaries about it on the telly.

I know. I watched them.

If you're
saying that there was a complete discrepancy between what the
scientists were saying and what the public were told, the possibility
that the same thing is happening now rears its head. Hmm....

The difference is that there is now a huge body of peer-reviewed literature
supporting what you are being told.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:29:12 GMT, JAF
wrote:

Deserts are expanding. The rate is likely to increase as the tempera true
rises.

Gosh.

GW doesn't necessarily mean one place will get more rain, and another less.
If anything everywhere will get more, but the main thing is that the weather
becomes more erratic (ie no seasons).

Wow. Which season will we get stuck with (and will it be the same
season in both hemispheres)? Spring would be rather nice. Late
Spring.

As floods, combined with de-forestation, wash away the topsoil, all the rain
in the world won't make anything grow.

Arrrrh. Also, you forgot to mention, that with no seasons a lot of
crops will never mature anyway.

The Atlantic Conveyor stopping will be a disaster for UK, and parts of
Western Europe.

Aeeei. I had a conveyor stop at Gatwick once. Waited 2 hours for my
luggage. You're not wrong - bloody terrible disaster. Nearly missed
Eastenders on telly, it made me that late.

Massive extinctions of plants and animals may well have catastrophic effects
that we can't possibly predict (certainly they will for the species
involved). Likely food shortages.

Eeek. But you must be mistaken. Surely there is *nothing* that the
mighty JAF is unable to predict? Go on - have a go - you know you
want to. I always like the image of the statue of Liberty toppling
majestically into the sea as a symbol of a catasrophic disaster and
the End of Life As We Know It. Couldn't we have that one please? Or
maybe Nelson's column as it's a bit closer to home. Yeah - Nelson's
column toppling into an angry, swollen and turgid Thames. I like it.
Please will you do that one for me?

Heatwaves will kill many thousands, as in France a few years ago.
Increased severity of floods and storms will cause massive, irreparable,
damage, and deaths.

Bloody 'eck. At least *I* am safe from flooding. I live a good 3
feet above sea level. Except when I go to bed, when I'm a bit lower.

All the technology in the world won't save the poor ****ers at the bottom of
the pile, who always get it first and most.

Yeah - but do we really care about those losers? C'mon - be honest
now.

etc.
Yikes
etc.
Corrr blimey

So - now that we have got the prediction of what's going to happen in
a few generation's time (or is it sooner?) out the way, please tell me
if we are going to have rain next Wednesday so I know whether or not
to cancel the BBQ. Should be a doddle for someone with your
predictive skills.

--
Cynic

In article , Bill Wright wrote:
I think we're all up **** creek if the global warming thing turns out to*
be
true.

Why do you think that? *What insurmountable problems do you claim it
will cause?

Nothing insurmountable I suppose. Maybe '**** creek' is an exageration. I*
suppose it all depends on how much the climate might change (from whatever*
cause) and how quickly.

For the unfortunate inhabitants of the bits of the UK that have been flooed
recently, "**** Creek" seems to be a very literal description of their
predicament, so maybe that is what the rest of us have to look forward to.

Rod.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:19:02 GMT, JAF
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:07:14 +0100, Cynic wrote:

[a load of drivel]

Oh dear. Is that your best shot?

Pathetic.

You lose.

Can you cite some peer reviewed papers to back up that assertion?

--
Cynic

On 10 Jul, 14:23, "Bill Wright" wrote:
"Duncan" wrote in message

ups.com...

I'm all for CO2 reduction schemes. As a drive towards ISO14001 we have
invested in a number of projects reducing energy and resource usage,
expanding recycling and reducing waste.

All of these have saved us serious money with payback periods from a
little under one year to about 3 years at very worst. Don't make the
mistake of fitting energy saving bulbs etc because you are helping the
environment, do it because you don't like giving your money away.

Yes but every possible measure needs to be properly audited. I mean to say,
these ludicrous wind turbines that B & Q are selling!

Bill

Agree. We aren't going down that route at all; very best we have found
has a 12 year payback.

"Duncan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Yes but every possible measure needs to be properly audited. I mean to
say,
these ludicrous wind turbines that B & Q are selling!

Bill

Agree. We aren't going down that route at all; very best we have found
has a 12 year payback.

If the global warming thing is a reality then we are effectively at war. So
wartime measures would be appropriate. Only sensible efficient measures
would be allowed. Yes, I mean the use of special powers.

Why isn't this happening? Maybe the government isn't really convinced about
global warming. Or maybe they know that the next election will come a long
time before any significant deleterious global warming effects.

Bill

In message , Bill Wright
writes

If the global warming thing is a reality then we are effectively at
war.

Don't be daft.

--
Mike_B

"Mike_B" wrote in message
...
In message , Bill Wright
writes

If the global warming thing is a reality then we are effectively at war.

Don't be daft.

It isn't so very daft.

Now that the latest reports prove conclusively that the increase in
temperature is *not* attributable to increased solar activity (which was
always a bit of wishful thinking on the part of the deniers) we all ought to
do our bit (there's a phrase from the war years) to combat global warming
and one major way we could do that is to adopt the wartime ethos of make do
and mend, and never throwing anything away if you can re-use it.

I can't remember why the government passed that law that says that
electrical goods cannot be sold second hand, but surely that ought to be
repealed, for starters.

The Todal wrote:
I can't remember why the government passed that law that says that
electrical goods cannot be sold second hand, but surely that ought to
be repealed, for starters.

There is no such law. The difficulty with selling second hand electrical
goods is that the seller can be held liable for any loss or injury if they
are later deemed to be electrically unsafe. This puts a lot of people off
selling them.

The Magpie wrote:

Have you ever even *heard* of the so-called "hockey stick" graph?

Have you even heard the gales of laughter that graph causes amongst
statisticians?