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Peter Hayes wrote:
Alan wrote:

In message , Bill Wright
wrote


What a totally stupid and ignorant remark! I wish I could take you to meet
the people of Toll Bar, and let you spout such ****e! You wouldn't last ten
seconds mate!
For **** sake it's a minor bit of local flooding that the press, as
usual, have made a major disaster. It may a bit of a problem for those
affected but in the scale of world problems, and even the rest of the
UK, it is insignificant.

It won't be insignificant when food prices rocket as a result of this
year's ruined harvest over much of central and southern England.

The worst hit are farmers, they don't receive any compensation and crop
failure is uninsurable.

All we are getting now is that the rest of us who have paid spent their
hard earned cash on household insurance should now pay for those who
cannot be bothered to do the same.

This does seem to make a nonsense of insuring.

Why should compensation be handed out just because flooding occured on a
large scale? The pain is the same for one victim of one flooded house in
an obscure village as for a victim in Toll Bar.

I hear Lloyds of Llondon insures anything?

"Alan" wrote:
altheim wrote

What you describe as a "minor bit of local flooding" is a disaster
for those who are actually affected.


But it doesn't change the FACT that it is only localised flooding in an
area likely to flood.

Ok, so if the plight of those affected is not the point, what is?

Are you trivialising this example of extreme weather over the
north of England in order to trivialise opinion about global
warming?

--
altheim

"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message
...

"Pyriform" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
If you think the science is false you are an idiot with no knowledge
of science.

Al Bore is disproved in more than 35 points by hundreds of scientists.

Cretin. Gore did not invent global warming, nor has he done any of the
research. You may, if you wish, entertain us by listing these 35 points
on
which AGW (presumably) is "disproved".

Anyway, you are able to use Google?
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=...le-Suche&meta=
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 45.000 für "Al Gore" disproved

However, for Al Gore+substantiated:
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 51.100 für "Al Gore" substantiated. (0,18
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--
altheim

Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Phil Randal" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Phil Randal" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote
"Rich" wrote in message
. ..
Hey, I'm sure that there are some exciting moments in Al Gore's life,
although my
imagination is lacking in regards to what those might be.
He's political failure who looked round for a bandwagon, saw a good one, and
jumped on. He is becoming very famous and turning into an international
superstar on the back of the global warming fiasco. Yet his own personal
consumption is megga!
Shorter version:
He hasn't digested the rout in 2000 and that's dishonour for him.
What we see here is a dispaired try to regain his honesty by hook
or by crook. IOW, it's simply compensation of an inferiority complex.
He needs the masses to approve him, regardless of if he is right or wrong.
The false science he uses is nothing more than a medium for him to
achieve his goal. This guy is simply a case for psychiatry.
False science? Strange, the climatologists who run realclimate.org said
his film was mostly sound. I'll trust them more than I trust you on that.
You mean that realkooks.org?
The one, where liars and bribed "scientists" incense themselves?

Contributors:
Mann = well known imposter and liar.
Rahmstorf = religious-fanatical idiot, bribed with US$1.000.000 by an african commerce group.

LOL
realclimate.org is the very last website, I would recommend.
If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you start by learning a bit
of the science and debating facts instead of launching ad-hominem attacks.

Sorry, but that ARE facts.
If you claim to be well informed about science, you should have known this.

No, they are not facts about the science of climate change. They are
pathetic, nasty, ad-hominem attacks. Which are usually the first resort
of someone who hasn't any evidence to back up their claims.

altheim wrote:
"Alan" wrote:
altheim wrote
What you describe as a "minor bit of local flooding" is a disaster
for those who are actually affected.

But it doesn't change the FACT that it is only localised flooding in an
area likely to flood.

Ok, so if the plight of those affected is not the point, what is?

Are you trivialising this example of extreme weather over the
north of England in order to trivialise opinion about global
warming?

Of course, it should go without saying that even though the flooding was
"localised", the effects will be national.

A report on Radio Four tonight claimed that the floods have devastated
one third of Britain's pea crops.

"altheim" wrote

"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message
...

"Pyriform" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
If you think the science is false you are an idiot with no knowledge
of science.

Al Bore is disproved in more than 35 points by hundreds of scientists.

Cretin. Gore did not invent global warming, nor has he done any of the
research. You may, if you wish, entertain us by listing these 35 points
on
which AGW (presumably) is "disproved".

Anyway, you are able to use Google?
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=...le-Suche&meta=
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 45.000 für "Al Gore" disproved

However, for Al Gore+substantiated:
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 51.100 für "Al Gore" substantiated. (0,18
Sekunden)

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=altheim+idiot&meta=
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 1.690 für altheim idiot. (0,53 Sekunden)

Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
AGW is a fake and fraud and Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on earth.

Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"altheim" wrote

"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message
...

"Pyriform" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
If you think the science is false you are an idiot with no
knowledge of science.

Al Bore is disproved in more than 35 points by hundreds of
scientists.

Cretin. Gore did not invent global warming, nor has he done any of
the research. You may, if you wish, entertain us by listing these
35 points on
which AGW (presumably) is "disproved".

Anyway, you are able to use Google?
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=...le-Suche&meta=
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 45.000 für "Al Gore" disproved

However, for Al Gore+substantiated:
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 51.100 für "Al Gore" substantiated.
(0,18 Sekunden)

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=altheim+idiot&meta=
Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 1.690 für altheim idiot. (0,53
Sekunden)

Why do you refuse to accept the truth?

AGW is a fake and fraud

We accept the truth that you are an imbecile with no understanding at all of
the science he dismisses as fake.

Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on earth.

That claim is trivially falsifiable, since you exist.

"Phil Randal" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Phil Randal" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Phil Randal" wrote
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote
"Rich" wrote in message
. ..
Hey, I'm sure that there are some exciting moments in Al Gore's life,
although my
imagination is lacking in regards to what those might be.
He's political failure who looked round for a bandwagon, saw a good one, and
jumped on. He is becoming very famous and turning into an international
superstar on the back of the global warming fiasco. Yet his own personal
consumption is megga!
Shorter version:
He hasn't digested the rout in 2000 and that's dishonour for him.
What we see here is a dispaired try to regain his honesty by hook
or by crook. IOW, it's simply compensation of an inferiority complex.
He needs the masses to approve him, regardless of if he is right or wrong.
The false science he uses is nothing more than a medium for him to
achieve his goal. This guy is simply a case for psychiatry.
False science? Strange, the climatologists who run realclimate.org said
his film was mostly sound. I'll trust them more than I trust you on that.
You mean that realkooks.org?
The one, where liars and bribed "scientists" incense themselves?

Contributors:
Mann = well known imposter and liar.
Rahmstorf = religious-fanatical idiot, bribed with US$1.000.000 by an african commerce group.

LOL
realclimate.org is the very last website, I would recommend.
If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you start by learning a bit
of the science and debating facts instead of launching ad-hominem attacks.

Sorry, but that ARE facts.
If you claim to be well informed about science, you should have known this.

No, they are not facts about the science of climate change. They are
pathetic, nasty, ad-hominem attacks. Which are usually the first resort
of someone who hasn't any evidence to back up their claims.

Yes, yes, ... Mann's hockey stick is nothing better than fire wood.
I think, I don't have to cite anything about Mann, because he was
debunked from tousands of scientists. FACT!

And for Rahmstorf, just look on his website. He even is boasting
with the $ 1.000.000 there. FACT!
This man is simply a stupid idiot and the bootlicker of EPA Minister
Gabriel in a religios and fanatic Gore-like style.

Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
Yes, yes, ... Mann's hockey stick is nothing better than fire wood.
I think, I don't have to cite anything about Mann, because he was
debunked from tousands of scientists. FACT!

No, FICTION! Mann's original work has been independently validated, several
times, and his findings have since been reproduced by multiple independent
studies. Lots of hockey sticks to choose from now. Your "thousands of
scientists" were in fact two people (a mining engineer and an economist) and
a hopelessly flawed paper published in a highly dubious journal, and long
ago discredited...

But since you have no understanding of what proper science looks like, you
cannot be expected to understand that.

Peter Muehlbauer wrote:

Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
AGW is a fake and fraud and Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on earth.

No he isn't, that title quite clearly belongs to you.