39% of Americans believe Bush should be impeached.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:09:19 -0700, Thumper wrote
(in article ):

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:53:32 -0700, George Graves
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 06:49:25 -0700, sechumlib wrote
(in article ):

On 2007-07-07 22:34:26 -0400, George Graves said:

OK, I'm all for it. What are the charges? Remember, these have to be
legitimate charges, instances where he broke US law.

Anyone who consider's Clinton's impeachment to have been based on
"legitimate charges" is living out in the never-never land of the far
right.


Anyone who condones perjury in a court of law, by anyone, high or low, has
no
right to live under a Democratic Republic. That means you, buddy.

Clinton was found NOT GUILTY!
Thumper

He was? That's news to me (and to a lot of other people as well). His
impeachment failed, if that's what you mean, but the record shows that he
clearly DID perjure himself.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:13:09 -0700, witfal wrote
(in article ):

On 2007-07-08 16:09:19 -0700, Thumper said:
Clinton was found NOT GUILTY

Clinton was found guilty of perjury, paid a fine of over $800,000, lost
his law license for five years,
and is permanently banned from arguing any case before the SCOTUS.

But he skated on his impeachment.


Yep.

"sechumlib" wrote in message
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On 2007-07-08 19:22:32 -0400, "sharx35" said:

Agreed. Same thing in Canada. If I was a leftie, I'd start watching the
shadows REAL closely, especially down in the D.C. area. If a leftie can't
afford 24/7 security on themself and ALL family members they should be
VERY
worried...at least IMHO.

Gee, I guess I should be scared stiff. All the neanderthals are out to
kill me, as painfully as possible.

You've given me insight into the working of the average right-wing mind. I
thought you & they were just blowhards, but apparenly I'm physically
threatened.

But then, your drug habit would probably make it impossible for you to
cross the border.


Who said anything about YOU? You egotists always think that everyone is
talking about YOU.

sechumlib wrote:
On 2007-07-08 21:16:28 -0400, Sam Spade said:

I wait for hours in the emergency room because they use as their
family doctor.


So what are you doing there? Using it as your family doctor too? How are
you better than they are?


What an ass. I have insurance and was there with a legitmate medical
issue. I had called my doctor's exchange first and the doctor on call
told me to go to the ER with my conition.

Would you like to diagnose it too?

G-squared wrote:
On Jul 7, 8:42 pm, none wrote:
James Davis wrote:
Right now about 30% of Americans are very happy with President
Bush, who was elected by a 51% majority.
incorrect, Gore won the election by the "majority" of the american
public, only in how the electoral college is setup did, bush sneak
in.

While I personally believe he's a moron, there is no rule that
says it's undemocratic for a president to only please 30% of the
population.
duh! but it's unprecedented to have such a poor performing
president in american history.

There could be some time in the future where angering 70% of the
population is the right thing to do. If you had to please the
majority of people, then we wouldn't even elect presidents. We
would just vote on issues and the majority vote would decide what
to do. It would be unfair to the 30% of Americans who like Bush
to impeach him unless he has done something illegal. He won the
vote, so he is the president. Besides, he doesn't have any power
to do anything that 70% of Congress disagrees with. If his
actions are so bad, they can be democratically overridden by
others. You can't just do away with the rules of democracy
because they are giving you the results you want.

Perhaps you remember the 2004 election where he did indeed get 51% of
the popular vote.

And that’s why *I* don’t argue that his 2000 election was illegitimate
anymore. All it could possibly do now is allow him to serve a “second�
“legitimate� term.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:44:51 -0700, Sam Spade
wrote:

sechumlib wrote:
On 2007-07-08 21:16:28 -0400, Sam Spade said:

I wait for hours in the emergency room because they use as their
family doctor.


So what are you doing there? Using it as your family doctor too? How are
you better than they are?


What an ass. I have insurance and was there with a legitmate medical
issue. I had called my doctor's exchange first and the doctor on call
told me to go to the ER with my conition.

Would you like to diagnose it too?

How do you know how many were illegal and how many simply didn't have
insurance?
Thumper

George Graves wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:31:37 -0700, sechumlib wrote
(in article ):

On 2007-07-08 18:54:04 -0400, George Graves said:

Please show me where, in any code of jurisprudence in the country where it
gives a witness the right to lie under oath about anything?
Please show me where, in any sensible political system, a politician
will put the chief executive in a position where he might lie under
oath about anything as trivial as a blow job? And use that as a reason
to try to get rid of a chief executive who is doing a perfectly fine
job?

There is simply no way around this. Clinton LIED under oath. End of story.
All side issues are irrelevant.

You live in an interesting world of black and white. Were you GWB's
roommate? The Republican Senate was smarter than you.

No politician with scruples would have done such a thing. Which types
the Republican Congress perfectly.

That is the point. Clinton was impeached for what the founders would
have considered a trivial matter. It came no where near treason or
bribery in the impact on the nation. If he had done what Scooter Libby
did he should have been convicted.

Matthew

--
I'm a consultant. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

sechumlib wrote:
On 2007-07-08 18:54:04 -0400, George Graves said:

Had I been the judge, as I've said before, the man would have done time -
starting the minute his presidency was up.

There you go again! Have you NO decency, sir? More particularly, have
you NO concept of the difference between an impeachment trial in
Congress and a criminal trial in court?


He has also never heard of the constitutional protection from double
jeopardy. That doesn't surprise me.

Matthew

--
I'm a consultant. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

On 2007-07-09 02:44:51 -0400, Sam Spade said:

What an ass. I have insurance and was there with a legitmate medical
issue. I had called my doctor's exchange first and the doctor on call
told me to go to the ER with my conition.

....whatever a "conition" might be.

On 2007-07-09 01:00:06 -0400, "sharx35" said:


"sechumlib" wrote in message
...
On 2007-07-08 19:22:32 -0400, "sharx35" said:

Agreed. Same thing in Canada. If I was a leftie, I'd start watching the
shadows REAL closely, especially down in the D.C. area. If a leftie can't
afford 24/7 security on themself and ALL family members they should be
VERY
worried...at least IMHO.

Gee, I guess I should be scared stiff. All the neanderthals are out to
kill me, as painfully as possible.

You've given me insight into the working of the average right-wing mind. I
thought you & they were just blowhards, but apparenly I'm physically
threatened.

But then, your drug habit would probably make it impossible for you to
cross the border.


Who said anything about YOU? You egotists always think that everyone is
talking about YOU.

Well, I fit your warped definition of a "leftie" (that is, I almost
always disagree with you and your nutty attitudes), so doesn't that put
me in danger (that is, I should be "VERY worried" and need "24/7
security")? If I lived in Canada, that is.