Best 46" 1080p with Freeview?

Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the best
1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

Opinions, opinions........

My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is - unless you are prepared to
sit WAY BACK from the screen (which tends to defeat the object), there is NO
46" screen that will perform well with Freeview. If you are after an LCD I
can recommend the Sony Bravia X series (but I understand that there is
(isn't there always) a better version due to be released later this year.
Nothing, however, can make a silk purse from a sow's ear, so a 576 line
source is gonna look crap on a monster flat panel, whoever makes it.
Unless, of course, you can find a 46" CRT (which I don't believe exists).
That would fudge the edges of any artefact-ridden digital picture and make
you believe it's better than it really is. But it would take up half your
lounge.........

Having said all of that, I reckon HD on the Bravia X is nothing short of
FANTASTIC. You will need, however, to commit to Sky to enjoy anything other
than HD/Blue Ray pre-recorded material (as far as I know and understand it)
for the foreseeable future.

Chas

check
http://uk.aldi.com/

for 47" running a LG PHILIPS screen; works fine on freeview

On Jul 7, 5:16 pm, "Tim" wrote:
Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the best
1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

Opinions, opinions........

My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is - unless you are prepared to
sit WAY BACK from the screen (which tends to defeat the object), there is
NO 46" screen that will perform well with Freeview. If you are after an
LCD I can recommend the Sony Bravia X series (but I understand that there
is (isn't there always) a better version due to be released later this
year.

Also understand that no LCD screen will allow you to watch anything filmed
in dark lighting with your lights switched off, so you are doomed to pollute
the environment and bring on global warming by keeping your lights switched
on and as bright as possible if you want black to look black on an LCD TV.
On top of that the back lighting on an LCD screen is not unifrom accross the
screen. The Sony's seem to be the best LCD's as far as contrast and
backlighting goes and Toshiba are absolute crap. The cheaper the TV the
worse the polaroid filters and the narrower the viewing actual angle . Don't
believe what the manufactures state in their literature unless you have seen
the picture on the TV and judged the viewing angle for yourself. The
manufacturers deliberately lie about and misrepresent the viewing angles and
contrast ratios on their products by not telling you what the contrast ratio
is at the maximum viewing angle or at intervals of degrees off centre. If
they claim a contrast ratio of 15000:1 the real contrast ratio may only be
3000:1 and only be 5:1 at the maximum viewing angle the manufacturers claim,
which means you have to be at least 2 meters away to see a decent picture.
Plasma screens are better as they don't suffer from viewing angle or
backlighting problems.

Nothing, however, can make a silk purse from a sow's ear, so a 576 line
source is gonna look crap on a monster flat panel, whoever makes it.
Unless, of course, you can find a 46" CRT (which I don't believe exists).
That would fudge the edges of any artefact-ridden digital picture and make
you believe it's better than it really is. But it would take up half your
lounge.........

Having said all of that, I reckon HD on the Bravia X is nothing short of
FANTASTIC. You will need, however, to commit to Sky to enjoy anything
other than HD/Blue Ray pre-recorded material (as far as I know and
understand it) for the foreseeable future.

Chas

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

Opinions, opinions........

My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is - unless you are prepared to
sit WAY BACK from the screen (which tends to defeat the object), there is
NO 46" screen that will perform well with Freeview. If you are after an
LCD I can recommend the Sony Bravia X series (but I understand that there
is (isn't there always) a better version due to be released later this
year.

Also understand that no LCD screen will allow you to watch anything filmed
in dark lighting with your lights switched off, so you are doomed to
pollute the environment and bring on global warming by keeping your lights
switched on and as bright as possible if you want black to look black on
an LCD TV. On top of that the back lighting on an LCD screen is not
unifrom accross the screen.

Why they don't have a dimming control on the backlight is a bit of a
mystery, which all laptops have.

I modified my LCD backlight circuitry do include a analogue dimming control
on the back with spot on results.

Whether it degrades tube life is another matter, but backlights in general
are far too bright.

"Piggy" The wrote in message
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Why they don't have a dimming control on the backlight is a bit of a
mystery, which all laptops have.

I modified my LCD backlight circuitry do include a analogue dimming
control on the back with spot on results.

Whether it degrades tube life is another matter, but backlights in general
are far too bright.




my sharp has a sensor that turns down the backlight in dim light - it's a
user selectable option and works very well.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

Opinions, opinions........

My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is - unless you are prepared to
sit WAY BACK from the screen (which tends to defeat the object), there is
NO 46" screen that will perform well with Freeview. If you are after an
LCD I can recommend the Sony Bravia X series (but I understand that there
is (isn't there always) a better version due to be released later this
year.

Also understand that no LCD screen will allow you to watch anything filmed
in dark lighting with your lights switched off, so you are doomed to
pollute the environment and bring on global warming by keeping your lights
switched on and as bright as possible if you want black to look black on
an LCD TV. On top of that the back lighting on an LCD screen is not
unifrom accross the screen. The Sony's seem to be the best LCD's as far as
contrast and backlighting goes and Toshiba are absolute crap. The cheaper
the TV the worse the polaroid filters and the narrower the viewing actual
angle . Don't believe what the manufactures state in their literature
unless you have seen the picture on the TV and judged the viewing angle
for yourself. The manufacturers deliberately lie about and misrepresent
the viewing angles and contrast ratios on their products by not telling
you what the contrast ratio is at the maximum viewing angle or at
intervals of degrees off centre. If they claim a contrast ratio of 15000:1
the real contrast ratio may only be 3000:1 and only be 5:1 at the maximum
viewing angle the manufacturers claim, which means you have to be at least
2 meters away to see a decent picture. Plasma screens are better as they
don't suffer from viewing angle or backlighting problems.

Nothing, however, can make a silk purse from a sow's ear, so a 576 line
source is gonna look crap on a monster flat panel, whoever makes it.
Unless, of course, you can find a 46" CRT (which I don't believe exists).
That would fudge the edges of any artefact-ridden digital picture and
make you believe it's better than it really is. But it would take up
half your lounge.........

Having said all of that, I reckon HD on the Bravia X is nothing short of
FANTASTIC. You will need, however, to commit to Sky to enjoy anything
other than HD/Blue Ray pre-recorded material (as far as I know and
understand it) for the foreseeable future.

Chas





Don't forget manufacturers also lie about refresh rates. They even say that
from GREY to GREY is say 8mS when they should be quoting BLACK to BLACK. In
that case it might be 12mS or more.
It's the smearing effect and rough edges I do not like on LCD TVs. They
really should have been invented before the CRT, which you just can't beat.
Once all the crappy LCDs are sold off we might see the "SED" being sold in
shops. People don't want LCD, it's all there is to buy so they have no
choice.
I have a 28" widescreen CRT and have never found any LCD TV with a picture
as good. If I could I would buy the LCD in a larger size.
In shops the display models always show weak analogue pictures with the
excuse, "sorry the aerial is not too good", or they show cartoons with slow
moving high colour shapes. It's so you don't notice the smearing effect.
When people get them home they are often disappointed but don't want to look
stupid and tell people they have been well and truly ripped off!
Some LCD TVs are sold with analogue tuners and can't resize the picture, so
you either get two black lines at the top and bottom or on the sides.

LCD is a good idea but it is years behind, mainly due to overpricing and
stockpiled goods that now can't be sold. Some even have 25mS refresh rates!
Try watching a tennis match or football on that. Still shots are fine, any
moving backgrounds go blurred then spring in to focus again!
LCD=waste of time.

TJY wrote:

LCD is a good idea but it is years behind, mainly due to overpricing and
stockpiled goods that now can't be sold. Some even have 25mS refresh rates!
Try watching a tennis match or football on that. Still shots are fine, any
moving backgrounds go blurred then spring in to focus again!
LCD=waste of time.

Freeview on my Mac Mini + 22" Dell LCD monitor can look excellent. Store
LCD screens look terrible with the possible exception of some Samsungs.
Same technology, so why the difference? Bad signal distribution isn't
responsible for all the faults.

Plasmas still look to have the edge, it's a pity they don't seem to be
available below 42".

Peter

"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim

I would suggest removing the Freeview constraint and buying a twin tuner
Freeview PVR.

--
Michael Chare

"Tim" wrote in message
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Will be buying the above soon but does anyone have any opinions on the
best 1080p to use with Freeview in terms of picture quality.
Is there a best manufacturer or model?
TIA
Tim


Thanks for all the advice guys. Will delay until I have HD sources.
Cheers
Tim