Comcast Digital vs Digital HD

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input

In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

there is NO hdmi output from the cable box... only cable in, cable out,
composite out, l & R audio out.

"Steve Cutchen" wrote in message
...
In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with
the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD
when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including
High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get
other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the
cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there
that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:07:22 -0500, Steve Cutchen
wrote:

In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

Make sure you use a high bandwith coax or you signal will be degraded.
I have Comcast and I have been doing this with my Olevia 32 inch LCD
HDTV and it works great. I even get Local stations from from nearby
cities out of my local range

The HDMI out is available on the HDTV Box from Comcast.

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:46:10 -0400, "Sam Soltan"
samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom wrote:

there is NO hdmi output from the cable box... only cable in, cable out,
composite out, l & R audio out.

"Steve Cutchen" wrote in message
...
In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with
the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD
when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including
High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get
other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the
cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there
that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

there is NO hdmi output from the cable box... only cable in, cable out,
composite out, l & R audio out.

"Steve Cutchen" wrote in message
...
In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with
the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD
when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including
High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get
other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the
cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there
that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

Mine does.

But that's why I gave three options, in order of my preference.

"Sam Soltan" samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom wrote in message
...
`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with
the results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get
other programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the
subcarrier channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been
"stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the
cable box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out
there that will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


This doesn't make sense. It imp[lies you are running RF from the cable box
to the TV. If so, your box is not giving you HD. Not even digital SD. I
think you have a very low end box that is meant to be used with an analog
TV. You need the HD cable box. Also, you can probably just use a splitter to
divide the signal between the box and the TV. The box should have at least
component output.

Tam

Tam

In article ,
"Sam Soltan" samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom wrote:

there is NO hdmi output from the cable box... only cable in, cable out,
composite out, l & R audio out.

If the box doesn't have HDMI or component outputs, it's just a digital
TV box, not HD.

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:42:52 -0800, Fred C. Dobbs
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:07:22 -0500, Steve Cutchen
wrote:

In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

Make sure you use a high bandwith coax or you signal will be degraded.
I have Comcast and I have been doing this with my Olevia 32 inch LCD
HDTV and it works great. I even get Local stations from from nearby
cities out of my local range

Not true, Fred.

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:48:31 -0500, ValveJob wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:42:52 -0800, Fred C. Dobbs
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:07:22 -0500, Steve Cutchen
wrote:

In article , Sam Soltan
wrote:

`I am using an Olevia 42" LCD TV and have been happy (pretty much) with the
results of plain Comcast cable.

I was able to get the (for lack of a better term) some the sub carrier
channels including the local channels ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox etc... in HD when
they were broadcast in HD as well as the local channels in SD on the
standard channel numbers, for example sd NBC 9, digital NBC including High
Def broadcasts 4_1.

I recently upgraded to getting a digital cable box and while I can get other
programs on the On Demand channels ... lo and behold all the subcarrier
channels that I was able to get, in HD, before have been "stripped off."


I was told by Comcast I would have to get an "HD Cable Box"


Is there a way of putting two antenna switches together to bypass the cable
box and go directly into the set? Is there a device already out there that
will do this?

cable output
|
switch
^
/ \
by pass digital cable box
switch
v
|
TV Input


Come out of the wall to a 1=2 cable splitter. From there to the
antenna input to your TV and to the antenna input of your cable box.

Then connect from your cable box to your TV with either HDMI, Component
or Composite cables.

Select Antenna to watch cable like you used to. Select the HDMI... to
get the cable box.

(The splitter will cut your signal strength. Depending on how many
splitters ou have between it and the cable service, you might need an
amplifier. But try it first.)

If you have two antenna inputs to your TV, you might want to get a
small UHF indor antenna to hook to the other one. This should get you
Over The Air access to your local HD channels by selcting between
Antenna A and B when on Antenna... unless you're in the boonies in
which case you'll need a more substantial antenna. I just use an old
UHF hoop antenna from on old TV.

Make sure you use a high bandwith coax or you signal will be degraded.
I have Comcast and I have been doing this with my Olevia 32 inch LCD
HDTV and it works great. I even get Local stations from from nearby
cities out of my local range

Not true, Fred.


Which part is not true? I know what did not work and what did work
for me. If I used standard old 75 ohm coax from the splitter at the
point where comacast installed it, I suffered many drop outs on my
high def and digital channels. Switched to a higher grade coax , end
of problem.
As far as the channel situation goes lets just say that I get two NBC
channels on my digital tuner in my Olevia. One is the Local affiliate
and one is from 75 miles away. I just live in the part of Comcast's
area where about 8 to 10 mile east of me is considered the other NBC
affiliates viewership area. Those subscibers get a different set of
Local channels.