Digital tuners in all TVs sold

The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include a
digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within their
working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Because in this case, the principle of caveat emptor applies
rather than that of nanny state.

I bought a very cheap DVDR in Tesco, and yes it does
have an analogue tuner. It also has a DV input and is
an ideal compliment to my camcorder.

Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned
in favour of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner,
or no tuner at all. (If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)

Perhaps there is a case for clear labelling of equipment with
analogue only tuners, but that's as far as it should go.

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Graham.
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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a
digital tuner.


http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their
working life.

"Digital tuner" means DTT, useless if you are using satellite or cable, and
not much use if you intend to record DTT using a HD recorder..

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Inadvisable to buy stuff like that in a supermarket as you have to do some
research, and when you get back there it's gone.

--
Max Demian

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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include a
digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within their
working life.


Which digital tuner do you want them to fit?
Terrestrial?
Satellite?
Cable?
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a
digital tuner.


http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their
working life.

"Digital tuner" means DTT, useless if you are using satellite or cable, and
not much use if you intend to record DTT using a HD recorder..

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Inadvisable to buy stuff like that in a supermarket as you have to do some
research, and when you get back there it's gone.

--
Max Demian

In article ,
Graham. wrote:
Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned in favour
of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner, or no tuner at all.
(If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)

Why should it be 'much more expensive'? Digital STBs can be bought for
pennies so the cost of including one must be less. Yet they seem to be of
the order of 100 quid or so more at the very bottom end - well over a 50%
increase.
I'm afraid I smell the usual rat of profiteering.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Most of what is being sold now is old stock, near it's sell by date like
most of the food in my local Tesco earlier tonight. That's after finding
numerous tins that were not dented and packets torn open. They blame the
supplier for that and get a refund.

I wouldn't buy a TV without a digital tuner. I wouldn't buy LCD anyway at
the moment as most are rubbish quality compared to CRT. Blurred backgrounds
is one particular annoyance, slow screen updating is another.

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , buddenbrooks

Which digital tuner do you want them to fit?
Terrestrial?
Satellite?
Cable?


Basic consumer law in the UK requires an item that is sold to perform the
task for which the buyer bought it.
The law itself does not specify "reasonably expect it to do", so there is
an onous on the seller to be clear on the capability of any item he sells,
or risk having to refund the purchase and take back a used item.

Now for 50 years, more than the lifetime of most purchasers, you could go
into a shop and buy a TV which would recieve the basic services for its full
expected life.

So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect it
to perform for an acceptable period.

Which for an electronics item of this type means in excess of 10 years. In
the UK analog only TVs fill not be TELEvisions after at most 5 years.


As for the type of tuner, any of the 3 above would mean the item being sold
is a Television for the period of its life.
However the USA have mandated a digital terrestrial tuner as minimum, which
I would find acceptable.
Although if I am spending £1000 plus for a large screened model the extra
£25 to add a Cable/Sat/DTT/Analog capable tuner
would seem acceptable.

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.

Remember your council taxes are going to have to pick up the bill for all
those units bought and discarded early because they are
not functional after shutdown. Adding extra boxes and adaptors will not be
acceptable in a lot of homes where the wife refuses to have the lounge look
like a laboratory.

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.


Yes you got a good piont there.

Was at Currys yesturday looking at lcd 17"/19"/20 'ish" ranges for a kitchen
TV. Of course I want widescreen, and freeview built in as this is now the
way TV is transmitted and the future when anologue goes.
The salesman thought I was daft wanting such an item.!

Almost all these TVs were 4x3 anologue sets.
I could have a Freeview built into one but it was 4x3.
A couple were Widescreen but anologue.

What a state of affairs.

I blame the government and those that set our broadcasting standards for not
having a worldwide standard for digital broadcasting.

From what I see Anologue TV sets work in most countries and satellite boxes
work around the world.

Of course Currys and the like are pushing the sets they have because a set I
require would have to be sold at twice these prices.

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"Rob" wrote in message
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I wouldn't buy a TV without a digital tuner. I wouldn't buy LCD anyway at
the moment as most are rubbish quality compared to CRT. Blurred
backgrounds is one particular annoyance, slow screen updating is another.



Yes you could well be right on crt looking better.
But why then are we all switched, or switching to lcd flat screen monitors
for our PCs?
Mine seems a better picture, but I changed for space saving.
Think people in the main are going away from crt TV to LCD/plasma for space
saving.
Of course if at Currys you get no choice, they decide for Joe Public what he
shall have.

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David

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