How to get 1080p from my PC to my Samsung DLP?

Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.


I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.


So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?


Thanks in advance.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:01:54 -0700, dgates
wrote:


Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.


I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.


So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?


Thanks in advance.

You do realize that you would never be able to see the difference
between 1080p and 1080i, don't you? Not in a million years.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:31:34 -0500 jiml wrote:

| You do realize that you would never be able to see the difference
| between 1080p and 1080i, don't you? Not in a million years.

The implication of your statement is that visually, 1080i looks just as
good as 1080p. That would also imply that 720i looks as good as 720p.
Too bad they didn't include 720i in ATSC, or maybe we could get twice
as much 720 programming over a given channel. And why even bother with
creating 480p if 480i is going to look just as good?

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:31:34 -0500, jiml wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:01:54 -0700, dgates
wrote:


Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.


I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.


So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?


Thanks in advance.

You do realize that you would never be able to see the difference
between 1080p and 1080i, don't you? Not in a million years.


That may be the case, but please do read about the other problems I'm
having. With the only 1080 picture I can get through the HDMI cable,
my picture is:

- fuzzy/jagged, and
- too large for the TV screen.

It's exactly the opposite of what I expected from buying this new
cable and running a 1080p signal directly to a 1080p "monitor."

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:31:34 -0500, jiml wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:01:54 -0700, dgates
wrote:

Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.

I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.

So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?

Thanks in advance.

You do realize that you would never be able to see the difference
between 1080p and 1080i, don't you? Not in a million years.

Weird, I saw an immediate difference between the two when I replaced
my original Xbox 360 which only did 1080i on my 1080p native TV with
the Xbox 360 Elite outputting 1080p.

Was it a huuuuge difference? Nope. But I definitely noticed a
crisper picture with less noise with my Elite on my TV. But the
biggest difference by far is when you get fast moving action on the
screen. It's just less blurry. You see more of the action going
acros the action. Not that 1080i was bad, but 1080p definitely
crisper.

This was the case for me for both when playing games and also watching
HD DVD movies via the 360 addon player.

May be my 60XBR2 Sony just doesn't do a good upconversion job with the
1080i signals to display it in its native 1080p mode. But personally,
I did see a noticeable and improved difference with what was displayed
on my TV from a 1080i and a 1080p source.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:01:54 -0700, dgates
wrote:

Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.


I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.


So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?


Thanks in advance.

I think I read a few threads about your issue at avsforum.com when I
was doing my research into which TV to get. Go find the thread
specific to your TV model and search in your TV section. I'm pretty
sure there are a few in there about gettings PCs to display properly
on your TV.

If not, you can always ask in there anyway. You'll probably end up
with better answers.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:33:11 GMT, No Way wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:01:54 -0700, dgates
wrote:

Hoping someone can help me out here...

I have a Samsung HL-S5088W. Its specs say that it can receive 1080p
via its HDMI inputs.

I have a DVI-to-HDMI cable and a PC with a (Radeon X600) video card
capable of outputting 1080p.

My goal this week has been to play Myst IV (which actually, I think,
only goes up to 1024x768 itself) to play in the living room on our
Samsung 1080p TV.


I've had some success with running 1080 via a VGA cable to the TV, but
it doesn't quite fill up the TV screen, and I get the sense that maybe
it could be a little more clear.

But nothing was as fuzzy or problematic than when I hooked my PC up to
the HDMI cable and set the PC's resolution to 1920x1080. Now the
fonts came out totally fuzzy, and the icons jagged.

I couldn't quite read the new options in my display control panel, but
it looked like I was being given a choice between 30Hz and 60Hz.

When I tried 60Hz, the TV said that it can't recognize that
resolution.

The other resolution, the one that seemed to read "30Hz" left the
picture very fuzzy-looking. AND the 1080 ("i?") picture was too large
for the DLP screen. For example, only about 25% of the Start button
is visible, and almost none of the System Tray.


So, I could use some help.

Was I reading that 60Hz vs. 30Hz correctly? And does the 60Hz mean
"Progressive" while the 30Hz means "Interlaced?"

Can anyone give me a couple pointers (even to a FAQ) that will help me
get a sweet, clear 1080p picture from my PC to fill my DLP screen?


Thanks in advance.

I think I read a few threads about your issue at avsforum.com when I
was doing my research into which TV to get. Go find the thread
specific to your TV model and search in your TV section. I'm pretty
sure there are a few in there about gettings PCs to display properly
on your TV.

If not, you can always ask in there anyway. You'll probably end up
with better answers.


Actually, I did swing by there.

I went to the "Samsung 1080p Owner's Thread --- HLSxx87W/HLSxx88W DLP
Models" (AKA, the "Samsung 2006 HLSxx87W/HLSxx88W (1080p) Series
Owner's thread"), but I could not figure out what search terms would
help me find what I needed out of the 18,618 posts in that thread.

DVI? PC? 1080p?

I did a little better searching Google Groups, but still have yet to
bump into the guy who's posting the same problem that I have.



One other "problem" is that the VGA picture is not bad at all! At
1080, it's somehow still smaller than the maximum size of the Samsung,
and the icons are a little hard to read on the Desktop.

But the (1024x768) game Myst IV plays well enough on the Samsung (via
VGA) that I'm not sure how much effort I should put into figuring out
the DVI-to-HDMI thing, other than out of a desire to "master" my gear.