The whole of Sheiffield under water.

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
Well you would think so the way the news channels are
going overvboard about it.
Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy
rain shower before!!
A waste of the license payers money.

I don't know where to start. But goodness, whatever your parents paid for
your education was totally wasted.

Tom Bradbury was thinking very hard :
Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service & Police
Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so
underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which
would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort).
Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and
then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually
(perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot).

Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges.

He died of the cold, not from drowning. After spending any length of time in
cold water, the body will go in to hypothermia,
then shock and eventually the heart goes into arrest as it tries to pump ever
harder the blood around the body, so much so that it can't take the exertion
required and the heart stops. Now clinically dead, however, brain death can
take longer because of decreased cellular activity because of the cold. It
is potentially possible to bring somebody back 'from the dead' at this point.

More people have died of hypothermia than drowning at sea. That
includes all Royal Navy personnel in WWII.

Shock - disorientation - hypothermia

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Count Baldoni

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Andy Burns wrote:
On 25/06/2007 23:38, Mary Pegg wrote:

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
What's the apostrophy for ?
Its to indicate something is missing.
^
|

How do you indicate a missing apostrophe?

Point at where it belongs with an arrow as above.

Except you've got the arrow too far to the right.

on 26/06/2007, supposed :
On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote:

He died of the cold, not from drowning.

Surely not?

it's England in June; summer.

And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so
there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough
to kill him.

Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course......

All water is cold enough to kill you. In the Red Sea and in the South
Pacific, it will all be cold enough to kill you.

--
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

Chas Gill explained :
wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote:

He died of the cold, not from drowning.

Surely not?

it's England in June; summer.

And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so
there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough
to kill him.

Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course......

How cold do you think water needs to be to kill you? I'm no doctor but I
think I can work out that even if it's as much as 10 degrees C that is still
a bloody sight colder than normal body temperature (37C) and thus will soon
leech away whatever heat you have in your totally immersed body. IIRC body
temperature only has to drop by about 5 degrees or so to significantly
threaten life. Try lying in a cold bath for a couple of hours..........
Strangely enough it's probably global warming that killed the poor sod - it
only needs a small rise in average temperature to significantly increase
water evaporation and hence produce more rainfall and hence the flooding we
are currently suffering.

Global warming is not out of control - it is we who are out of control.
Global warming is just the planet's way of saying "**** off". Perhaps we
ought to be listening?

Other factors also include panic-shock-disorientation.

--
Count Baldoni

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"bof" wrote in message
...
In message . com,
Jethro writes
Oops, my mistake - first news reports I heard yesterday was "grate"
and I hadn't re-read since.

He was helping a mate,
to clear a grate and
got his foot stuck in a gate,
great.


--
bof at bof dot me dot uk


Wow! He's a poet and he don't know it!

Adrian A brought next idea :
wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote:

He died of the cold, not from drowning.

Surely not?

it's England in June; summer.

And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so
there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough
to kill him.

Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course......

What a pratt you are! It's global warming that is causing the extreme
weather.

In this country many years ago we have experienced large tidal waves or
tsunami's that have wiped out whole communities.

Also take into the equation the constrains placed on rivers by man.

Don't ever believe that "act of God" nonsense the authorities trot out.

Act of man is more apt.

--
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM

Adrian A laid this down on his screen :
harrogate3 wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message
news
wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote:

He died of the cold, not from drowning.

Surely not?

it's England in June; summer.

And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control
so there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold
enough to kill him.

Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course......

What a pratt you are! It's global warming that is causing the extreme
weather.




That shows another bit of ignorance. The current westher is the
'European Monsoon' that oftern hits western Europe and the UK in early
June. It's just a bit worse than normal this year!

There was snow in mid June in 1957 and no-one had even thought of
global warming then!

They may not have thought of it but global warming had started then and this
June has been the wettest on record.

Maybe since they have been taking records.

--
Count Baldoni

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
om...
harrogate3 wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message
news
wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury"
wrote:

He died of the cold, not from drowning.

Surely not?

it's England in June; summer.

And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of
control
so there's no possible way the water would or could have been
cold
enough to kill him.

Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course......

What a pratt you are! It's global warming that is causing the
extreme
weather.




That shows another bit of ignorance. The current westher is the
'European Monsoon' that oftern hits western Europe and the UK in
early
June. It's just a bit worse than normal this year!

There was snow in mid June in 1957 and no-one had even thought of
global warming then!

They may not have thought of it but global warming had started then
and this
June has been the wettest on record.




Actually not. The average temperature peaked in 1940 and dropped year
on year until 1975. Who didn't watch "The Great Climate Change
Swindle" in Ch4 recently?


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

R. Mark Clayton laid this down on his screen :
"Tom Bradbury" wrote in message
...
Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service &
Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour
or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which
would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort).
Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and
then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually
(perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot).

Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges.

He died of the cold, not from drowning. After spending any length of time
in cold water, the body will go in to hypothermia,
then shock and eventually the heart goes into arrest as it tries to pump
ever harder the blood around the body, so much so that it can't take the
exertion required and the heart stops. Now clinically dead, however, brain
death can take longer because of decreased cellular activity because of the
cold. It is potentially possible to bring somebody back 'from the dead' at
this point.


Some chap got caught in 'quicksand' on Blackpool beach and died in the rising
tide because no-one thought to go and buy a snorkel or advise him to swim out
of it. This sounds similar, although obviously the water was moving
vigorously.

What is needed there is a helicopter with a winch and harness. Trouble
is this sort of **** happens really fast.

--
Count Baldoni

BALDONI REX ROMANORUM