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If debate was stifled in every case where there was a victim or relative,
then we'd have nothing left to discuss except bus timetables. Are West Yorksire travel liable for compensation on cancelled bus journeys, due to the flooding ? |
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harrogate3 wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message news ![]() wrote: On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote: He died of the cold, not from drowning. Surely not? it's England in June; summer. And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough to kill him. Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course...... What a pratt you are! It's global warming that is causing the extreme weather. That shows another bit of ignorance. The current westher is the 'European Monsoon' that oftern hits western Europe and the UK in early June. It's just a bit worse than normal this year! There was snow in mid June in 1957 and no-one had even thought of global warming then! They may not have thought of it but global warming had started then and this June has been the wettest on record. |
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In article .com,
Jethro wrote: apostrophy apostrophe catastrophe Anastrophe it ain't. -- Richard -- "Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963. |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:38:13 +0100, Adrian A wrote:
harrogate3 wrote: "Adrian A" wrote in message What a pratt you are! It's global warming that is causing the extreme weather. That shows another bit of ignorance. The current westher is the 'European Monsoon' that oftern hits western Europe and the UK in early June. It's just a bit worse than normal this year! There was snow in mid June in 1957 and no-one had even thought of global warming then! They may not have thought of it but global warming had started then and this June has been the wettest on record. Don't start this again. Lord Turkey Cough (half_wit's latest name) started the same argument by crossposting between these groups before. The ****stained troll knows that he can cause disruption with a large enough crosspost on this subject. |
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"Tom Bradbury" wrote in message ... Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service & Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort). Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually (perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot). Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges. He died of the cold, not from drowning. After spending any length of time in cold water, the body will go in to hypothermia, then shock and eventually the heart goes into arrest as it tries to pump ever harder the blood around the body, so much so that it can't take the exertion required and the heart stops. Now clinically dead, however, brain death can take longer because of decreased cellular activity because of the cold. It is potentially possible to bring somebody back 'from the dead' at this point. Some chap got caught in 'quicksand' on Blackpool beach and died in the rising tide because no-one thought to go and buy a snorkel or advise him to swim out of it. This sounds similar, although obviously the water was moving vigorously. |
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In article ,
Huge writes: On 2007-06-26, bof wrote: In message . com, Jethro writes Oops, my mistake - first news reports I heard yesterday was "grate" and I hadn't re-read since. He was helping a mate, to clear a grate and got his foot stuck in a gate, great. That grates. thegrauniad today says he got his foot stuck in a _grating_, not a gate or a grate, and that he didn't drown, but died from spending too long in cold water. -- SAm. |
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John Maybury wrote:
Don't start this again. Lord Turkey Cough (half_wit's latest name) started the same argument by crossposting between these groups before. The As a matter of fact, it seems to me that nearly all of the serious altercation that has occurred in uk.tech.digital-tv in the past few months has been imported from other groups by crossposting, either started by people with obsessive agendas or by outright trolls. If crossposting hadn't been possible, the group would have been very well tempered by Usenet standards. Pity there's no way to change Usenet's rules now. Usenet was started as a small scale university system, and the founders would have seen the ability to crosspost as a useful feature but they'd have had no idea that the system would one day be beset by a large number of wilfully antisocial users. -- Sandman |
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harrogate3 wrote:
That shows another bit of ignorance. The current westher is the 'European Monsoon' that oftern hits western Europe and the UK in early June. It's just a bit worse than normal this year! There was snow in mid June in 1957 and no-one had even thought of global warming then! It's certainly not unusual to have torrential rain in Summer. I refer readers to the "Great Flood of '68" with wiped out 3 road bridges in Keynsham and seriously damaged a fourth in July 1968. There was widespread disruption for over a week in the West Country. I remember speaking to a Keynsham resident shortly after this, who described the sky as being extremely frightening and angry, with rain falling like a continual sheet. The Army was brought in to build Bailey bridges and generally assist. Now if as another OP says, the snow in 57 was also Global Warming, and this flood was also due to it, then what is apparent is that there has been GW for a very long time and we have not exacerbated it with our current practice of heavy industrialisation and pollution. Not that I support the way we are treating our planet, of course. Chris |
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Lord Turkey Cough presented the following explanation :
Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Hosepipe ban imminent ! -- Count Baldoni BALDONI REX ROMANORUM |
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