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Old June 23rd 07, 09:18 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Mr Muffin Top
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I like the look of this

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv...0cab/index.htm

And would use it to view Sky HD.

The chap in John Lewis I spoke to said it would be fine for Sky HD. However
the resolution is quoted as -
Number of Pixels 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels - my computer monitor has a
higher resolution that that?

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Old June 23rd 07, 09:30 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
the dog from that film you saw[_2_]
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"Mr Muffin Top" no.spam wrote in message
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I like the look of this

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv...0cab/index.htm

And would use it to view Sky HD.

The chap in John Lewis I spoke to said it would be fine for Sky HD.
However the resolution is quoted as -
Number of Pixels 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels - my computer monitor has a
higher resolution that that?



full hd is 1900x1080 - 1080i or 1080p
that plasma will show 720p - 1280x720.
it will downscale it a little though. that's the price you pay for a 42"
plasma - if you want full 720p you'll need a 50" model.
at the resolution it provides it does qualify for a HD ready sticker though.


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Old June 23rd 07, 11:47 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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For a true 1:1 pixel mapping in HD you need at least a 1280 x 720
display. It would scale 1080p resolution down, and 720p would look
perfect. Or for more money, get a 1920 x 1080 display. But to get
anything other than those two resolutions now, today, seems strange.



i've yet to see a plasma under 50" that can manage more than 1024x720



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Old June 24th 07, 10:18 AM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:47:45 +0100, "the dog from that film you saw"
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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For a true 1:1 pixel mapping in HD you need at least a 1280 x 720
display. It would scale 1080p resolution down, and 720p would look
perfect. Or for more money, get a 1920 x 1080 display. But to get
anything other than those two resolutions now, today, seems strange.



i've yet to see a plasma under 50" that can manage more than 1024x720


Which is why EICTA (European Information, Communications and Consumer Electronics Technology
Industry Associations) the manufacturers trade association bent the defintiion of HD ready to
include these sets even though they are clearly downscaling a true HD signal.
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Old June 24th 07, 03:14 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
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Mr Muffin Top wrote:
I like the look of this

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv...0cab/index.htm

And would use it to view Sky HD.

The chap in John Lewis I spoke to said it would be fine for Sky HD.
However
the resolution is quoted as -
Number of Pixels 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels - my computer monitor has a
higher resolution that that?


Its a 720p panel, unless the price is very good, you want to be looking
towards a 1080p panel.

A 720p panel will claim to be able to show a 1080i picture ( it will be
expressed as 720p/1080i), however since very very few panels (close to non)
are able to display an interlace picture, they just downconvert a 1080i
picture to 720p. A 1080p panel can genuinly show 1080i (by turning it into
1080p), and is fast becoming the norm.

Gaz


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Old June 24th 07, 03:49 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
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"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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1024x720

Which is why EICTA (European Information, Communications and Consumer
Electronics Technology
Industry Associations) the manufacturers trade association bent the
defintiion of HD ready to
include these sets even though they are clearly downscaling a true HD
signal.
--


Well for films there is no difference between 1080i and 1080p since they
only run at 24 frames a second.

Since 1080i is already transmitted there is little point in transmitting
720p at for a lower resolution on a 1080p panel.


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Old June 24th 07, 04:08 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
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"Mr Muffin Top" no.spam wrote in message
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I like the look of this

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv...0cab/index.htm

And would use it to view Sky HD.

The chap in John Lewis I spoke to said it would be fine for Sky HD.
However the resolution is quoted as -
Number of Pixels 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels - my computer monitor has a
higher resolution that that?

I wouldn't compare monitor and TV resolutions,a monitor is much better
quality, ie a DVD normally has a resolution of 720×576 which looks great on
a TV but small on a monitor.


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Old June 24th 07, 06:11 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Nigel Barker
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:14:17 +0100, "Gaz" wrote:

Mr Muffin Top wrote:
I like the look of this

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv...0cab/index.htm

And would use it to view Sky HD.

The chap in John Lewis I spoke to said it would be fine for Sky HD.
However
the resolution is quoted as -
Number of Pixels 786,432 (1,024 x 768) pixels - my computer monitor has a
higher resolution that that?


Its a 720p panel, unless the price is very good, you want to be looking
towards a 1080p panel.

A 720p panel will claim to be able to show a 1080i picture ( it will be
expressed as 720p/1080i), however since very very few panels (close to non)
are able to display an interlace picture, they just downconvert a 1080i
picture to 720p. A 1080p panel can genuinly show 1080i (by turning it into
1080p), and is fast becoming the norm.

Gaz


I would be more concerned about the horizontal resolution. HDTV is 1920 pixels wide & this will be
downscaled to 1024 pixels thus losing almost half the resolution. The pixels on a 1024x768 panel are
rectangular otherwise it wouldn't be widescreen which again will be mucking up the HD picture as
transmitted.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
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Old June 24th 07, 07:25 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Piggy
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"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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You have explained the reasoning for the vertical downscaling. Now please
explain how 1920 pixels
wide being transmitted fits into 1024 pixels being displayed without
downscaling. Defining a
1024x768 panel as HD is a fudge to allow the manufacturers to sell to
unsuspecting consumers.


The interlace also applies to the horizontal definition in HD, as with
standard definition..

So the transmitted format is 540x960 per field, the 2 fields build the
1080x1920 frame.

So the 1024x768 plasma your not losing any horizontal definition at all when
viewing a film source.

On a 1920x1080 panel, the only way to get every pixel different is with
1080p source, but film at 24fps isn't really directly compatible with it..




 




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