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Old June 23rd 07, 09:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Tab
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I did this a few days ago and recorder is on Scart 2 of my Tv.With my vcr I
just had to switch it on and select Play or any of the other functions and
it would come up on my TV screen.With the Dvd rec.I find I have to use tv/av
button and change to Scart 2 to get any of the recorder functions.Is this
normal or is there anything I can do to change the procedure?I must say
that I did have a bit of bother setting the thing up because making the
connections according to the manual was not a success.Thanks for any help.


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Old June 23rd 07, 11:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Tab" wrote in message

I did this a few days ago and recorder is on Scart 2 of my Tv.With my
vcr I just had to switch it on and select Play or any of the other
functions and it would come up on my TV screen.With the Dvd rec.I
find I have to use tv/av button and change to Scart 2 to get any of
the recorder functions.Is this normal or is there anything I can do
to change the procedure?I must say that I did have a bit of bother
setting the thing up because making the connections according to the
manual was not a success.Thanks for any help.


Try switching the DVDR to standby and on again with the TV on.

I would have thought that the DVDR would 'assert' itself over the TV this
way.

I assume that the DVDR outputs RGB - are you sure that the TV's SCART2
supports RGB? Often only only one SCART does, possibly SCART1.

You definitely want to sent RGB from the DVDR to the TV - VCRs don't care as
the standard ones only output CVBS (composite) and never RGB.

You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes through
the DVDR.

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Old June 24th 07, 01:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes through
the DVDR.



This is quite true but the trouble is that many DVD recorders do not
pass RGB through from set top boxes etc so you are not much further
forward.

You do not say what make the DVD and TV are. That would help.
Also, are you sure you have the "TV out (AV1)" of the DVD recorder
connected to the TV as that will be the only one which auto activates
the scart switching.

Do you have SKY? If so, try looping the "TV OUT or AV1" of the DVD to
the VCR socket of the Sky box.

There are pros and cons to each of these methods but knowing the makes
would help a lot.

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Old June 24th 07, 10:22 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes
through the DVDR.


This is quite true but the trouble is that many DVD recorders do not
pass RGB through from set top boxes etc so you are not much further
forward.


Are you sure? Modern VCRs pass RGB through, and they don't know what it is.

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Old June 24th 07, 10:49 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Max Demian
wrote:
"Tab" wrote in message

I did this a few days ago and recorder is on Scart 2 of my Tv.With my
vcr I just had to switch it on and select Play or any of the other
functions and it would come up on my TV screen.With the Dvd rec.I find
I have to use tv/av button and change to Scart 2 to get any of the
recorder functions.Is this normal or is there anything I can do to
change the procedure?


You don't say which TV or recorder. It might help if we knew.

I must say that I did have a bit of bother setting the thing up
because making the connections according to the manual was not a
success.Thanks for any help.


Try switching the DVDR to standby and on again with the TV on.


I would have thought that the DVDR would 'assert' itself over the TV
this way.


The Panasonic I've recently been using allows the user to choose if it
claims scart input or not when it is switched on. So it may be that the OPs
recorder also does this, and is preset not to claim when it comes on. It
should assert and take the scart input when playing back, though. A visit
to the user manual and/or the depths of the reorder setup menus may clarify
this.

IIUC The point of the above is to avoid a timer recordings from
interrupting using the display/tv for some other purpose. But this
obviously will only make sense if it suits the requirements of the user. I
found it slightly confusing at first encounter, but liked it once I'd
twigged what was happening.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old June 24th 07, 06:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message

In , "Max Demian"
wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com
You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes
through the DVDR.


This is quite true but the trouble is that many DVD recorders do not
pass RGB through from set top boxes etc so you are not much further
forward.


Are you sure? Modern VCRs


"Modern VCRs" is contradiction in terms. This is really about DVD
recorders.


I was saying that if VCRs can do it, DVDRs certainly should.

pass RGB through, and they don't know what it is.


Very few VCRs passed RGB through, I've heard that one of the last
Panasonic VCRs did but of course that's a long time ago now.


Like my NV-HV61EB, bought 'long ago' (about a year).

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Old June 24th 07, 07:08 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Mike Henry" wrote in message

In , "Max Demian"
wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com
You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes
through the DVDR.

This is quite true but the trouble is that many DVD recorders do not
pass RGB through from set top boxes etc so you are not much further
forward.

Are you sure? Modern VCRs


"Modern VCRs" is contradiction in terms. This is really about DVD
recorders.


I was saying that if VCRs can do it, DVDRs certainly should.

pass RGB through, and they don't know what it is.


Very few VCRs passed RGB through, I've heard that one of the last
Panasonic VCRs did but of course that's a long time ago now.


Like my NV-HV61EB, bought 'long ago' (about a year).


Or my NV-HS950B bought nine years ago!

(kim)


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Old June 24th 07, 07:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote in message
oups.com...

You could try SCART1, looping any other things like set-top boxes through
the DVDR.



This is quite true but the trouble is that many DVD recorders do not
pass RGB through from set top boxes etc so you are not much further
forward.


Panasonics do, even in record mode.

(kim)


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Old June 24th 07, 07:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Max Demian
wrote:
"Tab" wrote in message

I did this a few days ago and recorder is on Scart 2 of my Tv.With my
vcr I just had to switch it on and select Play or any of the other
functions and it would come up on my TV screen.With the Dvd rec.I find
I have to use tv/av button and change to Scart 2 to get any of the
recorder functions.Is this normal or is there anything I can do to
change the procedure?


You don't say which TV or recorder. It might help if we knew.

I must say that I did have a bit of bother setting the thing up
because making the connections according to the manual was not a
success.Thanks for any help.


Try switching the DVDR to standby and on again with the TV on.


I would have thought that the DVDR would 'assert' itself over the TV
this way.


The Panasonic I've recently been using allows the user to choose if it
claims scart input or not when it is switched on. So it may be that the
OPs
recorder also does this, and is preset not to claim when it comes on. It
should assert and take the scart input when playing back, though. A visit
to the user manual and/or the depths of the reorder setup menus may
clarify
this.

IIUC The point of the above is to avoid a timer recordings from
interrupting using the display/tv for some other purpose. But this
obviously will only make sense if it suits the requirements of the user. I
found it slightly confusing at first encounter, but liked it once I'd
twigged what was happening.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics
http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html


Thanks all for replies.I have tried transferring DVDR to scart1 but things
still the same and as all is working OK apart from having to change to scart
2 on TV I think I will leave well alone. I will not be popular if I muck
things up completely.


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Old June 24th 07, 08:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Are you sure? Modern VCRs pass RGB through, and they don't know what it is.

The better ones do but many of the cheaper ones do not.
Also, auto widescreen switching may not get through the DVDR from a
Sky box.
It all depends on the DVDR.

 




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