All 4 channels for HD?

A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership
of the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will
lose 25% of their digital bandwidth?

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership of
the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will lose
25% of their digital bandwidth?

Well, I'm no guru, but I do watch KOCE in high-def. If they are giving up
one of the 4 digital channels, that means they will still have 3 channels
left.
One of their channels, I forget which number, only displays short snippets
of Orange County history, most always in black and white, and the program
are constantly repeating. I would guess that this format would be the one
that would be eliminated.

In short, I don't think you will notice the difference, IMHO.

Robert A. Cunningham

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership of
the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will lose
25% of their digital bandwidth?

PBS NY has either 3 or 4 digital channels. NBC NY goes up to 4.4 (really
28.4). These sub channels may not all be on at the same time. Both stations
are broadcasting in 1080 i. Like the other guy says, not all the sub
channels are full motion video. For instance, one of the NBC channels is
weather, which is slowly changing graphics.

Tam

My local PBS (Baltimore, Maryland) has 22-1 22-2 22-3 22-4 22-5 as stations.

Normally 22-1 is SD repeating the analog transmission.
Then either 22-2 is broadcasting in HD OR 22-3 has childrens SD, 22-4 has
select repeats in SD, and 22-5 has educational in SD.

So the implication is that at least as it is setup here they can have 4 SD
channels or 1 SD and 1 HD channel at any one time.

Michael

"Robert A. Cunningham" wrote in message
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership of
the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will lose
25% of their digital bandwidth?

Well, I'm no guru, but I do watch KOCE in high-def. If they are giving
up one of the 4 digital channels, that means they will still have 3
channels left.
One of their channels, I forget which number, only displays short snippets
of Orange County history, most always in black and white, and the program
are constantly repeating. I would guess that this format would be the one
that would be eliminated.

In short, I don't think you will notice the difference, IMHO.

Robert A. Cunningham

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:52:10 -0700, Sam Spade wrote:

A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership
of the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will
lose 25% of their digital bandwidth?

Unless the verdict is to give them 25% of the bandwidth, it's like they
will only get 1 sd subchannel which is really only about 20% or less.
There's plenty left for HD.

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Wes Newell wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:52:10 -0700, Sam Spade wrote:


A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership
of the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will
lose 25% of their digital bandwidth?


Unless the verdict is to give them 25% of the bandwidth, it's like they
will only get 1 sd subchannel which is really only about 20% or less.
There's plenty left for HD.

No, 25% was my assumption being basically clueless on this these
channels and how they work.

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in
Orange County, California just settled a battle with a
Christian group over ownership of the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the
Christian group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since
they will lose 25% of their digital bandwidth?

Why not just call and ask them?
Their contact info: http://www.koce.org/contact.htm

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On Jun 22, 10:36 pm, Wes Newell wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:52:10 -0700, Sam Spade wrote:
A question for the gurus. The local PBS station (KOCE)in Orange County,
California just settled a battle with a Christian group over ownership
of the station.

The station will remain a PBS station, but they are giving the Christian
group one of their 4 digital channels.

Does that kill high definition broadcasting for KOCE since they will
lose 25% of their digital bandwidth?

Unless the verdict is to give them 25% of the bandwidth, it's like they
will only get 1 sd subchannel which is really only about 20% or less.
There's plenty left for HD.


I did a little experiment with KOCE this morning. 50-1 is running 12.5
mbits/sec for the HD feed. 50-2 is SD and runs 3.0 mbits/sec. They
also run 'historical snapshots' in SD on 50-3 at 1.9 mbits/sec.
Perhaps the 'snapshot' channel will become the Christian channel --
but we could just ask.

GG