I am such a dick!

"bugbear" wrote in message
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Marky P wrote:
I've got into the habit of switching off all my electrical items
(excluding the fridge) at the mains every night before I go to bed.
Problem is, yesteday I set the DVDR to record something, then switched
the bugger off at the mains and went to bed!

Yes - the campaign not to leave appliances
on standby seems to ignore such matters.

I like Toshiba's approach. They have worked (technically)
to get standby consumption below 1 watt on
their products.

It could be a lot less than that, and it could either have a solar cell or
charge itself up (probably ultra capicitor) when the set was on.

I have a 12 year old Honeywell CM51 thermostat. It tells the time, tracks
the temperature and switches the central heating off and on several times a
day during the winter. It does not use mains power, but runs for two to
three years on a pair of Duracell AA batteries. There are more recent ones
that do all this over RF so they are running a radio transmitter as well. I
installed this in an office 18 months ago and it is still on it first set of
batteries.

BugBear

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I've got into the habit of switching off all my electrical items
(excluding the fridge) at the mains every night before I go to bed.
Problem is, yesteday I set the DVDR to record something, then switched
the bugger off at the mains and went to bed!

Don't switch them off then. All those items continually warming up, then
cooling down, then warming up again, etc, won't do their lifespan a lot of
good.
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"Marky P" wrote in message
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I've got into the habit of switching off all my electrical items
(excluding the fridge) at the mains every night before I go to bed.
Problem is, yesteday I set the DVDR to record something, then switched
the bugger off at the mains and went to bed!

Marky P.

That will teach you to take any notice of stupid government ******s.

That's incredibly presumptious of you, Mike, and possibly unfair by assuming
that the government were ******s, there. How do you know it wasn't advice
given out by stupid BBC Breakfast ******s?
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FMac wrote:
I think the whole global warming issue is a load of bull****.

Well, you're entitled to an opinion,
but you'll forgive me if I put more trust
in the balance of scientific belief.

Er... he did too. Try reading the rest of it instead of clipping it to suit
your agenda.

I am aware that there are some "plausible"
objections can caveats, but I am certainly
not qualified to decide between the information.

You can't decide between when the government or the media are telling you the
truth and when they're talking complete bull****?

Do you also have trouble working out which way round to sit on the lavatory?
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Dave wrote:

Reliable public transport would have been more useful in the 50s, 60s and
70s era, when private cars were less common and people had to rely more on
public transport.

Back in those decades at least one UK city had a cheap integrated
public transport system. Then the planners and laisez-faire
politicians ruined it by getting rid of the trams and putting up the
fares.

[If Bill is reading did you ever have trouble with interference from
the trolleys sparking?]

Back then we didn't have talk of 'global warming' every
two minutes, and we didn't have reliable public transport either. Infact I
can remember when buses were so unreliable that they either didn't arrive at
all, or two arrived together, half an hour late!.

These days we get three buses together!

Now that more people have
a car they try and introduce public transport to take people away from their
cars. Of course that wont happen in the short term because public transport
could NEVER replace the convenience of a private car and never will. I've
nothing against the buses running, but I don't think they should be spewing
out diesel fumes around the streets on such a regular basis, especially when
they are commonly empty on many journeys.

I don't think cars should be allowed to be driven along city streets
spewing out noxious chemicals often only carrying one person when
there is a perfectly good alternative means of transport available.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

I don't think cars should be allowed to be driven along city streets
spewing out noxious chemicals often only carrying one person when
there is a perfectly good alternative means of transport available.

Electric buses and cars are the answer, but they seem no nearer to becoming
popular than they did 10 years ago!

The councils who allow the running of diesel pumping buses should hang their
heads in shame.

"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
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Don't switch them off then. All those items continually warming up, then
cooling down, then warming up again, etc, won't do their lifespan a lot of
good.

Absolutely true, the thermal effect can rapidly reduce the life of
electronic equipment.

"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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[If Bill is reading did you ever have trouble with interference from
the trolleys sparking?]
Yes, in Doncaster. It only seemed to affect BBC.

Bill

"Rob" wrote in message
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"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

I don't think cars should be allowed to be driven along city streets
spewing out noxious chemicals often only carrying one person when
there is a perfectly good alternative means of transport available.

Electric buses and cars are the answer, but they seem no nearer to
becoming
popular than they did 10 years ago!

So the pollution can be generated out of the cities at the power stations,
so we can have it instead of you. Bugger that!

Bill

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"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

I don't think cars should be allowed to be driven along city streets
spewing out noxious chemicals often only carrying one person when
there is a perfectly good alternative means of transport available.

Electric buses and cars are the answer, but they seem no nearer to
becoming
popular than they did 10 years ago!

So the pollution can be generated out of the cities at the power stations,
so we can have it instead of you. Bugger that!

Bill

That's a very spurious argument, specifying a positive benefit of such
a system as being a negative one from your PoV.

Please remember that pollution concentrated in and around town centres
will eventually dissipate into the wider countryside. In all
probability, contributing more than that generated by power stations
which at least use tall chimney stacks to more evenly (and thinly)
distribute it amongs the general world population.

Taking into account that a lot of the energy that has to be entirely
dissipated as heat energy in braking systems in such start/stop
transportation systems can be recycled thus reducing the overall energy
consumed by the current ICE powered systems.

If anything, a well designed electric powered public transport system
would reduce overall pollution levels nationwide and, more importantly,
eliminate the concentrated pollution levels associated with today's ICE
powered public transport systems currently running in and around city
and town centres.

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