DISH or DirecTV???

Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.


One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?


cheers!

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:23:12 -0000, wrote:

Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.


One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?

I have DTV and am very happy with it. Rumors of a possible return of
DTV to TiVO in the near future. DTV is trumpeting the addition of
150HD channels in the near future.

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Both Dish and Directv have DVRs. Dish currently has more HD channels
while Directv has more sports offerings. Directv should have more HD in
a few months. Check their websites to see what specific channel
offerings are available.

wrote:
Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.


One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?


cheers!

On Jun 8, 8:49 am, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:23:12 -0000, wrote:
Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.

One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?

I have DTV and am very happy with it. Rumors of a possible return of
DTV to TiVO in the near future. DTV is trumpeting the addition of
150HD channels in the near future.

.
--

Where have you seen these rumors? I have an old DTV TIVO receiver and
love it.

A Watcher wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:49 am, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:23:12 -0000, wrote:

Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.

One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?

I have DTV and am very happy with it. Rumors of a possible return of
DTV to TiVO in the near future. DTV is trumpeting the addition of
150HD channels in the near future.

.
--


Where have you seen these rumors? I have an old DTV TIVO receiver and
love it.

Here is an article about it:

TiVo Could Return to DirecTV
http://www.betanews.com/article/TiVo...cTV/1181150927

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On 2007-06-08, Bill R wrote:
A Watcher wrote:

Where have you seen these rumors? I have an old DTV TIVO receiver and
love it.

Here is an article about it:

TiVo Could Return to DirecTV
http://www.betanews.com/article/TiVo...cTV/1181150927

Personally, I really wouldn't read too much into that. Think of the
comcast/TiVo unit which has been discussed for years. Even if DirecTV and
TiVo get back into bed, I would think it would be a long long time until
we can get our hands on said unit. And I think them getting back into bed
at this time is more a dream than anything closer to reality.

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Mike Hunt wrote:
Personally, I really wouldn't read too much into that. Think of the
comcast/TiVo unit which has been discussed for years. Even if DirecTV and
TiVo get back into bed, I would think it would be a long long time until
we can get our hands on said unit. And I think them getting back into bed
at this time is more a dream than anything closer to reality.

The DirecTivo is already an existing unit, though. All it would be is a
return to selling it. It is currently supported.

They could take a poll amongst subscribers that have both units, like
myself ;-)

I really like DirecTV. I've had it since 1994. I currently have two
DirecTV DVRs and a DTivo.

Someone in this area said that DTV had "better" local channels than Dish.
DirecTV does have different local stations than the local cable, so that
might be something worth looking into.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

thanks
- so, with DTV & DISH, is it true that you need to use an aerial for
the local channels like FOX5 & ABC7? (NY)
- do i also require an active phone subscription? ( i have a phone
line but am not subscribed to any providers & dont want to)

"Bob Nielsen" wrote in message
. ..
Both Dish and Directv have DVRs. Dish currently has more HD channels
while Directv has more sports offerings. Directv should have more HD in a
few months. Check their websites to see what specific channel offerings
are available.

wrote:
Hey,
Moving to Bayside, NY next month & I'm sick of TimeWarner so need to
change!
Cablevision & Verizon Fios don't service Bayside, so it seems its DTV
or Dish for me.

can anyone outline the best choice & why please?
I do know that the major drivers for me are DVR service/HD channels/
sports.


One other point - it seems many channels on TimeWarner are broadcast
in 4:3, whilst they are actually available on VerizonFios &
Cablevision in HD or even non-HD 16:9.
Examples are Fox Soccer Channel, CNN, MTV.
Can anyone confirm if either DTV Dish suck like TimeWarner in this
regard?
is there a listing of channels that they may provide in 16:9, even
though not in full HD?


cheers!


You mentioned 4x3 vs 16x9 format. I believe that you will find that it is
the source of the broadcasting that determines the format. If SciFi wants
to broadcast in 4x3 then it pretty hard for DirectTV, Dish or who ever to
convert it to 16x9 without distorting the picture.

The same issue for watching a old movie on a HD channel and then complaining
about the picture quality. You are stuck with the original format. Also
watching a sporting event on a HD channel and the broadcasters are using old
SD camera equipment.

I got Direct TV for the NFL season ticket package and am one of their
old-old customers. You can go to the respective web sites and look at the
channel line ups and compare. When I got direct tv there was not a dish co.
to compare against. It was the little 18" dish attached to the house or a
big dish in the yard.

wrote:
- so, with DTV & DISH, is it true that you need to use an aerial for
the local channels like FOX5 & ABC7? (NY)

If your "local channels" are New York city, then either DTV or Dish have
the major networks and independents covered. I've heard that there are
some smaller NYC stations missing.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packPr...alChannels.jsp
Manhattan has 18 local channels, including WNYW and WABC.
That's odd, SF has 21. I would have expected NYC to have a lot.

- do i also require an active phone subscription? ( i have a phone
line but am not subscribed to any providers & dont want to)

On my two most recent installs, they ran new phone line for a "normal"
receiver, and didn't for a DirecTivo. That's okay, because I have VoIP,
and the DTivo won't make a phone call, but the DirecTV DVR does, and I
guess the normal receiver did, I never paid attention.


I would say "no".

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5