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On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:02:26 +0100, "tim....."
wrote: "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... On 19/05/2007 15:22, Agamemnon wrote: The Stade De France only cost 200,000 You've got 3 zeros missing, €285M But that is still only a quarter the price of Wembley as was the Millenium Stadium. tim The Millennium Stadium was £120 Million I seem to remember. A while back on Radio 5, a "Stadium Architect" they interviewed made a comment to the effect that "even after Wembley is completed, the Millennium Stadium will remain the most technologically advanced stadium in the Northern Hemisphere". Annoyingly he didn't explain this statement. |
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Bill Wright wrote: Prince Whatsisface opened the event by saying that the FA Cup had come back to its rightful place. What's so god-given about London? The FA is supposed to be a national organisation. It would make more sense if they had built a stadium in the middle of the UK, somewhere with good roads and lots of free parking. Free parking for 90,000 cars? All for a few days a year? -- *Certain frogs can be frozen solid, then thawed, and survive * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"harrogate3" wrote in message ... "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message ... "Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... The new Wembly Stadium has cost a billion pounds to build and it looks a cheep as chips. Look at all the bare concrete and cheep plastic. For a billion pounds you'd have expected marble cladding on all the walls and floors, after all the original Olympic Stadium in Athens is all marble and can seat 60,000. For a billion pounds you'd have expected gold plated brass railings not cheep galvanised ones. For a billion pounds you'd have expected leather padded seats and not cheep plastic ones. So where has all the money gone? Well it works out at a mere £14,285 a seat. Actually it was (IMSMC) £830m and it seats 90,000 - a mere £9222.22 Well as I understand it only about 70,000 are for 'the fans' the rest are for press etc? Either way it is hardly cheap!! per seat! -- Woody harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com |
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in 231084 20070519 191316 "Bill Wright" wrote:
Prince Whatsisface opened the event by saying that the FA Cup had come back to its rightful place. What's so god-given about London? The FA is supposed to be a national organisation. It would make more sense if they had built a stadium in the middle of the UK, somewhere with good roads and lots of free parking. A service station on the M1? |
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"Bob Martin" wrote in message ... in 231084 20070519 191316 "Bill Wright" wrote: Prince Whatsisface opened the event by saying that the FA Cup had come back to its rightful place. What's so god-given about London? The FA is supposed to be a national organisation. It would make more sense if they had built a stadium in the middle of the UK, somewhere with good roads and lots of free parking. A service station on the M1? I was thinking of somewhere like Thorne Wastes. Bill |
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On 20/05/2007 12:23, Bill Wright wrote:
I was thinking of somewhere like Thorne Wastes. It'd make a change from having tumbleweed on the M18 ... |
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Mike Henry wrote: Free parking for 90,000 cars? All for a few days a year? Why not - Silverstone manages it. Last time I was at Silverstone on a capacity day I realised the benefits of the tube... It took about the same time from leaving the grandstand to exiting the carpark as driving back to London. -- *To steal ideas from *one* person is plagiarism; from many, research* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Agamemnon wrote:
The new Wembly Stadium has cost a billion pounds to build and it looks a cheep as chips. Look at all the bare concrete and cheep plastic. So where has all the money gone? Never mind that what, happened to the roof that was retractable so as not to cast a shadow on the pitch? As a technical aside, given the possibilities of image processing these days and the availability of fast computers it must surely be possible to "photoshop" the image in real time, or as near as makes no difference in these days of digital delay making every live event a delayed rebroadcast, and equalize the brightness of the shaded and sunlit parts of the pitch to rather better effects than the crude on/off effect of the lens iris or blanket gain control that they still seem to be using. -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks" |
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 00:24:00 +0100, Phil Cook
mused: Agamemnon wrote: The new Wembly Stadium has cost a billion pounds to build and it looks a cheep as chips. Look at all the bare concrete and cheep plastic. So where has all the money gone? Never mind that what, happened to the roof that was retractable so as not to cast a shadow on the pitch? As a technical aside, given the possibilities of image processing these days and the availability of fast computers it must surely be possible to "photoshop" the image in real time, or as near as makes no difference in these days of digital delay making every live event a delayed rebroadcast, and equalize the brightness of the shaded and sunlit parts of the pitch to rather better effects than the crude on/off effect of the lens iris or blanket gain control that they still seem to be using. You'd think wouldn't you. I can't watch a live football match on TV, can't see what the hell is happening. Watch an old match from the seventies and it's clear and accurate and the ball is much more followable. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 00:24:00 +0100, Phil Cook
wrote: As a technical aside, given the possibilities of image processing these days and the availability of fast computers it must surely be possible to "photoshop" the image in real time, or as near as makes no difference in these days of digital delay making every live event a delayed rebroadcast, and equalize the brightness of the shaded and sunlit parts of the pitch to rather better effects than the crude on/off effect of the lens iris or blanket gain control that they still seem to be using. Photoshop, or the equivalent in television post-production, would have to work on video signals that already been recorded, so it would be necessary to use a setting for the camera that would capture detail from both the sunlit and the shaded parts of the scene. This isn't possible because the brightness range presented by such a situation vastly exceeds the dynamic range that can be captured by any photographic system at a single setting. Even the human eye can't do it, and needs to adjust its iris setting to control the amount of light entering the eye, and the same has to be done for cameras. The results of using automatic iris circuits generally look awful because they can only react after the event, deriving a control signal from the amplitude of the video signal itself, after it has either been under or over exposed. A human operator can usually do better once they are familiar with the scene because they can anticipate changes to some extent and adjust the iris control in such a manner as to make transitions less noticeable. A lot depends on the skill of the operator, and if it is outdoors, the weather. Repeated panning of the camera between sunlight and shade on a sunny day is the worst possible situation in which to do this, but controlling the light as it enters the camera is the only way. There's just too much variation to attempt to do it later. Rod. |
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