Series 2 and viewing HDTV

I understand the Series 2 Tivo cannot record HDTV. But can I watch HD
channels realtime without losing any quality? Because my digital
cable's routed through the Tivo, is HD quality lost?

thanks.
JT

JT wrote:
I understand the Series 2 Tivo cannot record HDTV. But can I watch HD
channels realtime without losing any quality?

No


Because my digital cable's routed through the Tivo, is HD quality lost?

Yes


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Nik Simpson

On May 11, 6:03 pm, Nik Simpson wrote:
JT wrote:
I understand the Series 2 Tivo cannot record HDTV. But can I watch HD
channels realtime without losing any quality?

No

Because my digital cable's routed through the Tivo, is HD quality lost?

Yes

--
Nik Simpson

Thanks for the succinct response. looks like time warner's hd-dvr for
me.

JT wrote:
I understand the Series 2 Tivo cannot record HDTV. But can I watch HD
channels realtime without losing any quality?

Yes, if your HD television set can get a direct feed from the cable box and
the cable box has HDMI or component outputs.

Yes, if your HD television has a CableCARD tuner such that it can receive
digital channels without a cable box.

No, if the cable box only outputs SD signals (composite or S-Video).

No, if your TiVo is connected to the cable without a cable box.

Because my digital cable's routed through the Tivo, is HD quality lost?

The kind of cable boxes that do SD only won't even tune into any HD channel,
so it's not really lost; it was not available in the first place.

The kind of cable boxes that do handle HD may or may not be able to output
HD signals to the TV and SD signals to the TiVo simultaneously. If not,
then the HD quality will be lost as the signal is down-converted to SD.

-Joe

On May 12, 3:51 am, Joe Smith wrote:
JT wrote:
I understand the Series 2 Tivo cannot record HDTV. But can I watch HD
channels realtime without losing any quality?

Yes, if your HD television set can get a direct feed from the cable box and
the cable box has HDMI or component outputs.

Yes, if your HD television has a CableCARD tuner such that it can receive
digital channels without a cable box.

No, if the cable box only outputs SD signals (composite or S-Video).

No, if your TiVo is connected to the cable without a cable box.

Because my digital cable's routed through the Tivo, is HD quality lost?

The kind of cable boxes that do SD only won't even tune into any HD channel,
so it's not really lost; it was not available in the first place.

The kind of cable boxes that do handle HD may or may not be able to output
HD signals to the TV and SD signals to the TiVo simultaneously. If not,
then the HD quality will be lost as the signal is down-converted to SD.

-Joe

my hd set does accept HDMI and component. the cable box/signal i'm
getting will be HD. does that mean i should split the line; have one
signal from the cable box go into tivo and from tivo to the set. the
other line will go directly to the set.

thanks for helping a guy who ordered a bunch of stuff without knowing
what he got himself into.

JT

On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:10:47 -0700, JT wrote:

my hd set does accept HDMI and component. the cable box/signal i'm
getting will be HD. does that mean i should split the line; have one
signal from the cable box go into tivo and from tivo to the set. the
other line will go directly to the set.

No. you can't split the line. you take the HD output to your tv (HDMI or
component). Then take the 480I output from the cable box to your Tivo and
then from there to the TV. You won't be able to record the show in HD, but
you will be able to record it and play it back in 480i. How good the
picture will be on your TV depends on how well it handles 480i. In the
end, you'd be much better off paying the cable company the $5 or $10
per month for their HD DVR and dumping the Tivo subscription.

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Wes Newell wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:10:47 -0700, JT wrote:

my hd set does accept HDMI and component. the cable box/signal i'm
getting will be HD. does that mean i should split the line; have one
signal from the cable box go into tivo and from tivo to the set. the
other line will go directly to the set.

No. you can't split the line. you take the HD output to your tv (HDMI or
component). Then take the 480I output from the cable box to your Tivo and
then from there to the TV. You won't be able to record the show in HD, but
you will be able to record it and play it back in 480i. How good the
picture will be on your TV depends on how well it handles 480i. In the
end, you'd be much better off paying the cable company the $5 or $10
per month for their HD DVR and dumping the Tivo subscription.



Or getting the Series-3 TIVO which does do HD.

--
Nik Simpson

Wes Newell wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:10:47 -0700, JT wrote:

my hd set does accept HDMI and component. the cable box/signal i'm
getting will be HD. does that mean i should split the line; have one
signal from the cable box go into tivo and from tivo to the set. the
other line will go directly to the set.

No. you can't split the line. you take the HD output to your tv (HDMI or
component). Then take the 480I output from the cable box to your Tivo and
then from there to the TV. You won't be able to record the show in HD, but
you will be able to record it and play it back in 480i. How good the
picture will be on your TV depends on how well it handles 480i.

I was going to answer JT, but see that Wes posted the exact information
that I would have.

Once the cable box arrives, check to see if
A) it can output 480i on S-Video simultaneous with HD,
B) it responds to infra-red signals coming from TiVo's IR-Blaster.
(Or responds to control from TiVo via a serial port connection.)

-Joe

On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:35:22 -0700, Joe Smith wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:10:47 -0700, JT wrote:

my hd set does accept HDMI and component. the cable box/signal i'm
getting will be HD. does that mean i should split the line; have one
signal from the cable box go into tivo and from tivo to the set. the
other line will go directly to the set.

No. you can't split the line. you take the HD output to your tv (HDMI or
component). Then take the 480I output from the cable box to your Tivo and
then from there to the TV. You won't be able to record the show in HD, but
you will be able to record it and play it back in 480i. How good the
picture will be on your TV depends on how well it handles 480i.

I was going to answer JT, but see that Wes posted the exact information
that I would have.

Once the cable box arrives, check to see if
A) it can output 480i on S-Video simultaneous with HD,
B) it responds to infra-red signals coming from TiVo's IR-Blaster.
(Or responds to control from TiVo via a serial port connection.)

-Joe


What I love about my HR10-700 is that any HD program it will
transparently output in 480i through the RCA jacks.