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Old May 12th 07, 02:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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When the analogue signal has been switched off in a given region, e.g.
Border will be the first, will that region then have the full 6 x 24 Mbps =
144 Mbps of capacity to use so that the regions that switchover first will
get for example the BBC HD channel before the other regions?


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Old May 12th 07, 03:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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When the analogue signal has been switched off in a given region, e.g.
Border will be the first, will that region then have the full 6 x 24 Mbps
= 144 Mbps of capacity to use so that the regions that switchover first
will get for example the BBC HD channel before the other regions?


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Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php

I stand to be corrected but as far as I can determine there are currently NO
FIRM PLANS to introduce HD on any channel - at least as a free-to-air
service. Worse still, there is the very real prospect that the freed-up
bandwidth is going to be flogged off to the highest bidder - which may not
be for Telly purposes at all.

Chas


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Old May 12th 07, 04:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
When the analogue signal has been switched off in a given region, e.g.
Border will be the first, will that region then have the full 6 x 24 Mbps
= 144 Mbps of capacity to use .....


Might have, as I understand it will depend which particular transmitter you
recieve. Some will indeed be 6 muxes, but others 5, 4 or even 3 muxes.

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Old May 12th 07, 05:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Chas Gill wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
When the analogue signal has been switched off in a given region,
e.g. Border will be the first, will that region then have the full 6
x 24 Mbps = 144 Mbps of capacity to use so that the regions that
switchover first will get for example the BBC HD channel before the
other regions? --
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Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php

I stand to be corrected but as far as I can determine there are
currently NO FIRM PLANS to introduce HD on any channel - at least as
a free-to-air service.



The BBC management has asked the BBC Trust for permission to launch the BBC
HD channel permanently, so it should be freely available via satellite if
nothing else.


Worse still, there is the very real prospect
that the freed-up bandwidth is going to be flogged off to the highest
bidder - which may not be for Telly purposes at all.



They could provide HD versions of all of the "big 5" channels at a push if
they wanted to after digital switchover. Also, if the broadcasters were
given all of the "Digital Dividend" spectrum we'd only get a handful more HD
channels, so Freeview would always be very limited in the number of HD
channels that could ever be available.

The only solution is to adopt DVB-T2, which should double the capacity and
allow quite a lot of HD channels to be transmitted, and I dare say that if
they were given all of the rest of the spectrum then the chances of us using
DVB-T2 would diminish, and they'd just sit back on their laurels to avoid
putting people to the expense of having to upgrade their aerials with the
threat that that would bring of people possibly losing people to Sky.

Basically, they should do what's in the best interests of the public rather
than what's in the best interests of themselves for a change, but we'll
never see the BBC do that!


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Old May 12th 07, 05:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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David wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
When the analogue signal has been switched off in a given region,
e.g. Border will be the first, will that region then have the full 6
x 24 Mbps = 144 Mbps of capacity to use .....


Might have, as I understand it will depend which particular
transmitter you recieve. Some will indeed be 6 muxes, but others
5, 4 or even 3 muxes.



Okay.


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http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php


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Old May 12th 07, 05:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On May 12, 3:10 pm, "David" wrote:

Might have, as I understand it will depend which particular transmitter you
recieve. Some will indeed be 6 muxes, but others 5, 4 or even 3 muxes.


Only the existing 80 DTT sites will carry all six SD muxes after DSO,
with one addition, Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
transmitters will only carry three SD muxes.

There are about 100 sites licenced to carry two extra muxes, these
might or might not appear, and might or might not carry HD.



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Old May 12th 07, 06:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mark Carver wrote:
On May 12, 3:10 pm, "David" wrote:

Might have, as I understand it will depend which particular
transmitter you recieve. Some will indeed be 6 muxes, but others
5, 4 or even 3 muxes.


Only the existing 80 DTT sites will carry all six SD muxes after DSO,
with one addition, Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
transmitters will only carry three SD muxes.

There are about 100 sites licenced to carry two extra muxes, these
might or might not appear, and might or might not carry HD.



It's so hypocritical that they're holding out the begging bowl for the
spectrum yet they can't even be bothered to extend the coverage of the other
3 multiplexes from the current 73%. They deserve to be given nothing, IMO.


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Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php


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Old May 12th 07, 06:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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DAB sounds worse than FM [email protected] wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
On May 12, 3:10 pm, "David" wrote:

Might have, as I understand it will depend which particular
transmitter you recieve. Some will indeed be 6 muxes, but others
5, 4 or even 3 muxes.


Only the existing 80 DTT sites will carry all six SD muxes after DSO,
with one addition, Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
transmitters will only carry three SD muxes.

There are about 100 sites licenced to carry two extra muxes, these
might or might not appear, and might or might not carry HD.



It's so hypocritical that they're holding out the begging bowl for the
spectrum yet they can't even be bothered to extend the coverage of the
other 3 multiplexes from the current 73%.


It's not "can't be bothered", It's "don't want to spend the (quite
considerable) sum of money needed".

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Old May 13th 07, 04:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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On May 12, 5:11 pm, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:


It's so hypocritical that they're holding out the begging bowl for the
spectrum yet they can't even be bothered to extend the coverage of the other
3 multiplexes from the current 73%. They deserve to be given nothing, IMO.


It's the PSBs (notably the Beeb) holding out the begging bowl, and
they're equipping all 1154 sites for SD.

Actually because the existing 80 sites will employ significantly
higher power after DSO, that 73% figure will rise to 90%.

The remaining 1074 sites will account for 9.9 ish % coverage. The COM
mux operators have decided it's not economically viable to extend any
further. The PSB operators (BBC, ITV, C4, 5 etc) are obliged to
provide 99ish % coverage.

Same situation with analogue radio, compare the number of FM
transmitters used for BBC R1-4, with the number equipped for Classic
FM.

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Old May 13th 07, 10:04 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Same situation with analogue radio, compare the number of FM
transmitters used for BBC R1-4, with the number equipped for Classic
FM.


Yes and surprising how well they cover us with Classic in that case.
I would ask have we too many BBC FM?
My dial is full of duplicate BBC .

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