Patrick Moore blames women for falling BBC standards, and he's right!

Stephen Wilson told the audient void (and rec.arts.drwho):
"Geoff Winkless" ] wrote in message
Stephen Wilson wrote:
"Geoff Winkless" ] wrote in message
OH FFS, please, can you not recognise the big ugly thing hiding under
the bridge over there in rec.arts.drwho?

Please stop cross-posting this now-completely-off-topic troll-fest, it's
pretty clear that either the guy is deliberately trying to wind you up
(most likely, IMO) or his opinions are explicitly preformed and will not
change based on your posts.

I didn't start the original post. I've no idea which group it originated
in. I've no idea whether the original poster cross-posted it or whether a
subsequent poster did.

You're right, I could (and probably should) ignore his posts. But isn't
it just as easy for you to ignore this thread?

Yeah, why should you bother with newsgroup titles at all? After all,
everyone else can just ignore the posts they don't like, so why not just
post everything into the same group? Your time is far more important than
ours.

Even better, cross-post it to _all_ the groups, because your posts are so
interesting that everyone should get a chance to read them!

Did you even read a word I wrote? I won't bother trying to explain it to you
again.

I suspect that the long-term influence of Yads on this group has
desensitized us to how much annoyance these off-topic crossposts can
cause.

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"Any programme which is not Indian Jones, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, James
Bond, Harry Potter, King Kong, War of the Worlds, Count Dracula or anything from
these kind of genres is a women's programme.
"All thrillers are directed primarily at women because only a person as feeble
and uneducated as a typical woman would not realise how stupid the characters
are reacting to the situation."
-- Agamemnon

"The Face of Po" wrote in message
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Stephen Wilson told the audient void (and rec.arts.drwho):
"Geoff Winkless" ] wrote in message
Stephen Wilson wrote:
"Geoff Winkless" ] wrote in message
OH FFS, please, can you not recognise the big ugly thing hiding under
the bridge over there in rec.arts.drwho?

Please stop cross-posting this now-completely-off-topic troll-fest,
it's
pretty clear that either the guy is deliberately trying to wind you
up
(most likely, IMO) or his opinions are explicitly preformed and will
not
change based on your posts.

I didn't start the original post. I've no idea which group it
originated
in. I've no idea whether the original poster cross-posted it or
whether a
subsequent poster did.

You're right, I could (and probably should) ignore his posts. But
isn't
it just as easy for you to ignore this thread?

Yeah, why should you bother with newsgroup titles at all? After all,
everyone else can just ignore the posts they don't like, so why not
just
post everything into the same group? Your time is far more important
than
ours.

Even better, cross-post it to _all_ the groups, because your posts are
so
interesting that everyone should get a chance to read them!

Did you even read a word I wrote? I won't bother trying to explain it to
you
again.

I suspect that the long-term influence of Yads on this group has
desensitized us to how much annoyance these off-topic crossposts can
cause.

Possibly. Although you get idiots and flame wars occurring in almost any
group. However, I object to some guy who thinks he's a member of the usenet
police criticizing me for responding to a post.

Looking back through this thread's history, it appears that Agamemnon made
the first post. He posted it to 2 groups. Every response has thus ended up
in both groups. I don't look at every post I ever respond to just to ensure
it's not being cross-posted elsewhere.

Chill out a bit Geoff. You'll live longer.

Agamemnon wrote:

"FCS" wrote in message
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On May 9, 2:43 pm, The Face of Po
wrote:

Coming back to earlier points, although Torchwood has
been quite actively bisexual this has gone out after the
9 o'Clock watershed. I'm at a loss as to where the gay-
ness in Dr WHO has been prevalent.


Does it have to be spelled out to you?

Rose, He's gay she's and alien

A two second joke like that counts as prevalent?

TEOTW, Cassandra was born a boy and then became a woman.

Trans-sexual not homosexual and as such not gay. It's also just a two second joke.

TEC/TDD, Gay British army officer, Captain Jack says that everyone in
the future is gay.

Your best chance of making your point and you completely miss it. Nancy gets
caught in this guys house after the air raid but accuses him of shagging the
butcher. Thats a full 20 seconds worth of that scene. Also it's the doctor and
not Captain Jack that says that everyone "dances" meaning not just gay but cross
species as well.

Badwolf, Shot of Captain Jack's naked body was to have shown his arse
but was cut by the BBC against Gayvies wishes

In a room with two female robots but point taken. However that's still only ~10
seconds.

TPOTW, Gay kiss between the Doctor and Captain Jack

That lasts about 5 frames. Present but not prevalent.

New Earth, Intersexual body swapping and the Doctor acts like a gay

That's because *Cassandra* -a female- has posessed him and not due to being gay.

T&C, Doctor says he assumed one of the characters was gay

I skimmed Tooth & Claw to find that but I missed that one.

ROC/AOS, Gay relationship shown between Ricky and whatshisname from that
boy band.

Wrong. Ricky's straight. Dunno about the boy band guy but there's no
relationship. In the draft scripts Ricky was gay and there was a relationship
but that was removed by RTD of all people. http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/30520

TIL, Gay son continually put down by his father

About 10 seconds worth of very ambiguous comments that hint more at having a
violent father than a gay son. The son may be gay but once more it is hardly
prevalent.

TSP, Gay embrace

Can't find that one either. I hope you're not counting that small group hug
after escaping certain death at the hands of the Ood because if you are you're
really scraping the barrel.

Gridlock, Lesbianism and cat sex

Two references to the girls being married and they hold hands for about seven
seconds. And unless cat sex is a gay sex euphemism of some sort then it doesn't
count as that relationship is boy-girl. Once more, present but hardly prevalent.

DIM, Reference made by the Doctor to someone giving him a gay kiss

And the "musical theatre" joke by Tallulah, along with two lads in Hooverville
IIRC. 10-25 seconds of across both episodes though.

That's about 1.5-2 mins across the first 2.5 series maybe that can be stretched
to 3-5 min by adding any snippets that we've forgotten about but by definition
that means they weren't prevalent or else they'd have been remembered.

"Darren Wilkinson" [email protected] wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

"FCS" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 2:43 pm, The Face of Po
wrote:

Coming back to earlier points, although Torchwood has
been quite actively bisexual this has gone out after the
9 o'Clock watershed. I'm at a loss as to where the gay-
ness in Dr WHO has been prevalent.


Does it have to be spelled out to you?

Rose, He's gay she's and alien

A two second joke like that counts as prevalent?

TEOTW, Cassandra was born a boy and then became a woman.

Trans-sexual not homosexual and as such not gay. It's also just a two
second joke.

TEC/TDD, Gay British army officer, Captain Jack says that everyone in the
future is gay.

Your best chance of making your point and you completely miss it. Nancy
gets caught in this guys house after the air raid but accuses him of
shagging the butcher. Thats a full 20 seconds worth of that scene. Also
it's the doctor and not Captain Jack that says that everyone "dances"
meaning not just gay but cross species as well.

Badwolf, Shot of Captain Jack's naked body was to have shown his arse but
was cut by the BBC against Gayvies wishes

In a room with two female robots but point taken. However that's still
only ~10 seconds.

TPOTW, Gay kiss between the Doctor and Captain Jack

That lasts about 5 frames. Present but not prevalent.

New Earth, Intersexual body swapping and the Doctor acts like a gay

That's because *Cassandra* -a female- has posessed him and not due to
being gay.

T&C, Doctor says he assumed one of the characters was gay

I skimmed Tooth & Claw to find that but I missed that one.

ROC/AOS, Gay relationship shown between Ricky and whatshisname from that
boy band.

Wrong. Ricky's straight. Dunno about the boy band guy but there's no
relationship. In the draft scripts Ricky was gay and there was a
relationship but that was removed by RTD of all people.
http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/30520

TIL, Gay son continually put down by his father

About 10 seconds worth of very ambiguous comments that hint more at having
a violent father than a gay son. The son may be gay but once more it is
hardly prevalent.

TSP, Gay embrace

Can't find that one either. I hope you're not counting that small group
hug after escaping certain death at the hands of the Ood because if you
are you're really scraping the barrel.

Gridlock, Lesbianism and cat sex

Two references to the girls being married and they hold hands for about
seven seconds. And unless cat sex is a gay sex euphemism of some sort then
it doesn't count as that relationship is boy-girl. Once more, present but
hardly prevalent.

DIM, Reference made by the Doctor to someone giving him a gay kiss

And the "musical theatre" joke by Tallulah, along with two lads in
Hooverville IIRC. 10-25 seconds of across both episodes though.

That's about 1.5-2 mins across the first 2.5 series maybe that can be
stretched to 3-5 min by adding any snippets that we've forgotten about but
by definition that means they weren't prevalent or else they'd have been
remembered.

BULL****.

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then Gayvies
takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single episode of
Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There are even more
references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are to straight ones
and this is a show supposed to be watched by children so there should be no
references to sex at all.

In article ,
"Agamemnon" wrote:

BULL****.

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then Gayvies
takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single episode of
Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There are even more
references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are to straight ones
and this is a show supposed to be watched by children so there should be no
references to sex at all.


For 42 years there was not a mention of mobile 'phones in Doctor Who and
then Russell T-Mobile Davies takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes
and every single episode of Torchwood even though only 86% of the
population have mobile 'phones. There are even more references to mobile
'phones than there are to landlines and this is a show supposed to be
watched by children so there should be no references to telecommunications
at all.

Cat.

Agamemnon wrote:

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then
Gayvies takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single
episode of Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There
are even more references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are
to straight ones and this is a show supposed to be watched by children
so there should be no references to sex at all.

And yet just about every single one of your posts to these newsgroups
mentions homosexuality as well. What does *this* tell us?

--
marc

"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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BULL****.

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then
Gayvies takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single
episode of Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There
are even more references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are to
straight ones and this is a show supposed to be watched by children so
there should be no references to sex at all.

For 42 years, Dr Who was broadcast during the 20th century.

Hello!!! This is the 21st century. Some things that were acceptable a few
decades ago are unacceptable today. And vice versa.

Dr Who has moved with the times. Agamemnon is a relic from the past. A
dinosaur.

In all that time the actors playing DW were gay, then look at the DW fans
like Yads 40 still living with his mother, then look at yourselves

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they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous









"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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BULL****.

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then
Gayvies takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single
episode of Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There
are even more references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are
to straight ones and this is a show supposed to be watched by children so
there should be no references to sex at all.

For 42 years, Dr Who was broadcast during the 20th century.

Hello!!! This is the 21st century. Some things that were acceptable a few
decades ago are unacceptable today. And vice versa.

Dr Who has moved with the times. Agamemnon is a relic from the past. A
dinosaur.

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In all that time the actors playing DW were gay, then look at the DW fans
like Yads 40 still living with his mother, then look at yourselves

As far as I'm aware, none of the actors who have played Dr Who are or were
gay. Not that it would make any difference if they had been. Their sexual
orientation is none of mine, or anybody else's business.

I'm quite happy with my life, thanks. However, as someone who seems to spend
their life doing nothing but poking fun at others, maybe you should take
your own advice.

"The Stainless Steel Cat" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Agamemnon" wrote:

BULL****.

For 42 years there was not a mention of gays in Doctor Who and then
Gayvies
takes over and its in over 1/3 of the episodes and every single episode of
Torchwood even though only 6% of the population is gay. There are even
more
references to gay sex or gay relationships than there are to straight ones
and this is a show supposed to be watched by children so there should be
no
references to sex at all.


For 42 years there was not a mention of mobile 'phones in Doctor Who and
then Russell T-Mobile Davies takes over and its in over 1/3 of the
episodes
and every single episode of Torchwood even though only 86% of the
population have mobile 'phones. There are even more references to mobile
'phones than there are to landlines and this is a show supposed to be
watched by children so there should be no references to telecommunications
at all.

Cat.

I can't stand Aggy, but if you think this analogy is apt, you are a nuts.