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Old April 19th 07, 02:29 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Dino M[_2_]
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies

The volume of recordings from Sky Movies on my Sky+ box does seem rather
quiet, as I have to turn the TV volume up before I can hear it at a decent
level.

It has only been on a couple of films I have recorded recently but not from
any other channels.

Does anyone know if this was a couple of rogue recordings or is there a
problem, as the rest of the recordings are fine and the picture quality is
great.


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Old April 20th 07, 12:51 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Roger Wilmut
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In article , Dino M
wrote:

The volume of recordings from Sky Movies on my Sky+ box does seem rather
quiet, as I have to turn the TV volume up before I can hear it at a decent
level.

It has only been on a couple of films I have recorded recently but not from
any other channels.

Does anyone know if this was a couple of rogue recordings or is there a
problem, as the rest of the recordings are fine and the picture quality is
great.


I have posted a note answering this question in some detail at
http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/SkySound.html

Short answer: Movies with Dolby Digital tend to have a very wide
dynamic range, so the dialogue is much quieter than the loud effects
and music.
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Old April 20th 07, 01:11 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Beck[_2_]
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies


"Roger Wilmut" wrote in message
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I have posted a note answering this question in some detail at
http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/SkySound.html

Short answer: Movies with Dolby Digital tend to have a very wide
dynamic range, so the dialogue is much quieter than the loud effects
and music.


Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.

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Old April 24th 07, 08:28 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
John Russell
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies


"Beck" wrote in message
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"Roger Wilmut" wrote in message
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I have posted a note answering this question in some detail at
http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/SkySound.html

Short answer: Movies with Dolby Digital tend to have a very wide
dynamic range, so the dialogue is much quieter than the loud effects
and music.


Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.

Which is a real pain with SKY HD as many US programs have DD sound, which
SKY embeds ordinary volume PCM stereo ads within. At least with SKY films
you don't have to keep altering the volume every 15 mins for ads.


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Old April 24th 07, 08:34 PM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
the dog from that film you saw[_2_]
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"John Russell" wrote in message
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Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.

Which is a real pain with SKY HD as many US programs have DD sound, which
SKY embeds ordinary volume PCM stereo ads within. At least with SKY films
you don't have to keep altering the volume every 15 mins for ads.




if the ads really are that much louder than the programs a simple complaint
to OFCOM will cure your woes - they have rules and will force sky to comply.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/


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Old April 26th 07, 12:06 AM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Dom Robinson
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies

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"John Russell" wrote in message
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Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.

Which is a real pain with SKY HD as many US programs have DD sound, which
SKY embeds ordinary volume PCM stereo ads within. At least with SKY films
you don't have to keep altering the volume every 15 mins for ads.




if the ads really are that much louder than the programs a simple complaint
to OFCOM will cure your woes - they have rules and will force sky to comply.

Their get-out is that the volume isn't louder, it just *sounds* louder, that's
because the volume remains the same, but during the programme/films the levels
peak and trough, whether it's just dialogue or an action piece for example,
whereas during the ads they ramp the levels up to full.
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Old April 26th 07, 12:06 AM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
Dom Robinson
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies

In article , says...

"Roger Wilmut" wrote in message
. ..

I have posted a note answering this question in some detail at
http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/SkySound.html

Short answer: Movies with Dolby Digital tend to have a very wide
dynamic range, so the dialogue is much quieter than the loud effects
and music.


Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.

Volume turn down? That is an alien concept to me. Make like Toyah and be
proud, be loud, be heard.
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom
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Old April 26th 07, 11:59 AM posted to uk.media.tv.sky
John Russell
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Default Volume on Sky+ recordings from Sky Movies


"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"John Russell" wrote in message
...


Which is a right pain in the arse. Turn it up to hear the quiet
dialogue
and then have to quickly turn it down when other sounds come in.
Which is a real pain with SKY HD as many US programs have DD sound,
which
SKY embeds ordinary volume PCM stereo ads within. At least with SKY
films
you don't have to keep altering the volume every 15 mins for ads.




if the ads really are that much louder than the programs a simple
complaint
to OFCOM will cure your woes - they have rules and will force sky to
comply.

Their get-out is that the volume isn't louder, it just *sounds* louder,
that's
because the volume remains the same, but during the programme/films the
levels
peak and trough, whether it's just dialogue or an action piece for
example,
whereas during the ads they ramp the levels up to full.
--


I encode sound into Dolby for my home videos. With Vegas it makes it
perfectly clear that a 27db reduction is made compared to PCM. So yes
adverts are heavily compressed, i.e little difference between high and lows,
but add in the 27db Dolby Reduction for the program content and you get a
huge difference in relative volume levels.


 




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