Plasma Question

Hi-

Because I'm unhappy with the current crop of LCD's on the market, I'm
considering going plasma (Pioneer or Panasonic).

I'm concerned about the two issues most people would be and was hoping
for some guidance...

Just ho weasily does burn-in occur? Is it at the same level as a CRT
for example? Should I be concerned in watching a 2:35 film all the way
through without changing the stagnent image?
I also enjoy games. If I switch from a stagnent game screen once an
hour for a minute or two, would this suffice?

Also, how quickly do these sets "go dark?"
Is this process very noticeable?

Thanks very much!

On Apr 18, 10:36 am, wrote:
Hi-

Because I'm unhappy with the current crop of LCD's on the market, I'm
considering going plasma (Pioneer or Panasonic).

I'm concerned about the two issues most people would be and was hoping
for some guidance...

Just ho weasily does burn-in occur? Is it at the same level as a CRT
for example? Should I be concerned in watching a 2:35 film all the way
through without changing the stagnent image?

No. But if you watch a bunch of them in a row you'd want to exercise
some caution.

I've seen recent plasmas in commercial use (running 8 hours a say)
exhibit permanent image burn-in in less than two weeks. Yes, this is
an extreme case, where a very high contrast logo was displayed in the
same spot continuously. But it's also not a situation where any
critical viewing was done; it's possible there might have been
something visible to close inspection in just a few days.

Much of the damage was reversed by "whitewashing" the screens every
night for a couple of months. But who knows how much their lives were
shortened?

I also enjoy games. If I switch from a stagnent game screen once an
hour for a minute or two, would this suffice?

I would never buy a plasma if I planned to play games on it.

In fact, I will never buy a plasma for home use at all, after what
I've seen in the commercial sector. Some of the newer 1020p 46-47"
LCDs are achieving excellent black levels and high contrast ratios,
especially when properly adjusted in a rationally lit room (as opposed
to the extreme brightness designed for dealer showrooms). There are
plenty of plasma screens that don't perform as well as some of the
better new LCD's.

I've also seen plasmas fail in a way that rendered them junk,
repairable only at a cost higher than replacement cost. LCDs are more
modular, and thus more repairable (in my experience).

Someone else's experience could certainly point them a different way,
and I understand that this is all subjective, anecdotal, lacking in a
source of reliable data.

But as someone who has been responsible for spending tens of thousands
of dollars on plasma screens for my employer, I don't own a hi-def TV
myself, for the simple reason that I'd rather keep my old NTSC 36" CRT
than own a plasma. I will be buying an LCD this year.

R

On Apr 18, 1:25 pm, rdclark wrote:
On Apr 18, 10:36 am, wrote:

Hi-

Because I'm unhappy with the current crop of LCD's on the market, I'm
considering going plasma (Pioneer or Panasonic).

I'm concerned about the two issues most people would be and was hoping
for some guidance...

Just ho weasily does burn-in occur? Is it at the same level as a CRT
for example? Should I be concerned in watching a 2:35 film all the way
through without changing the stagnent image?

No. But if you watch a bunch of them in a row you'd want to exercise
some caution.

I've seen recent plasmas in commercial use (running 8 hours a say)
exhibit permanent image burn-in in less than two weeks. Yes, this is
an extreme case, where a very high contrast logo was displayed in the
same spot continuously. But it's also not a situation where any
critical viewing was done; it's possible there might have been
something visible to close inspection in just a few days.

Much of the damage was reversed by "whitewashing" the screens every
night for a couple of months. But who knows how much their lives were
shortened?

I also enjoy games. If I switch from a stagnent game screen once an
hour for a minute or two, would this suffice?

I would never buy a plasma if I planned to play games on it.

In fact, I will never buy a plasma for home use at all, after what
I've seen in the commercial sector. Some of the newer 1020p 46-47"
LCDs are achieving excellent black levels and high contrast ratios,
especially when properly adjusted in a rationally lit room (as opposed
to the extreme brightness designed for dealer showrooms). There are
plenty of plasma screens that don't perform as well as some of the
better new LCD's.

I've also seen plasmas fail in a way that rendered them junk,
repairable only at a cost higher than replacement cost. LCDs are more
modular, and thus more repairable (in my experience).

Someone else's experience could certainly point them a different way,
and I understand that this is all subjective, anecdotal, lacking in a
source of reliable data.

But as someone who has been responsible for spending tens of thousands
of dollars on plasma screens for my employer, I don't own a hi-def TV
myself, for the simple reason that I'd rather keep my old NTSC 36" CRT
than own a plasma. I will be buying an LCD this year.

R

Thanks very much for your well thought out response!

im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.

wrote in message
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im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.

Sony no longer makes consumer plasmas. My most recent problems with burn-in
occurred with Sony commercial plasmas.

R

wrote:
im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.

Neither of which you've ever seen.

recommend you buy sony.

Sony is Japanese for garbage.

On Apr 20, 12:03 am, wrote:
im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.

Good Luck. Sony was so horrible at Plasma manufacturing that they
stopped making them. Word of advise, never trust anyone that
recommends any Sony, Bose or Dell product :-)

You may want to look in to Fujitsu Plasmas. Our main selling feature
for them is their ability to wash the screen after using them. If,
say you're playing games for 5 hours on component input 1 and want to
turn the system off, you can switch the monitor to input 2 (or one
that is not being used) and the screen will go solid white. This
refreshes the screen and eliminates most burn-in that may have
occured. After 60 seconds, the monitor will automatically turn itself
off after not seeing a video signal on that input. Many times, we
program this in to the universal remote and Power ON and Power OFF
macros so the customer never has tot hink about this.

Of course, you may want to look in to an LCD if you're so concerned.
Although I am strongly against the use of LCD as your main television
and movie watching, it has it's place. Just note that you will not
achieve the same color abilities or smooth action effects that a
plasma can give you. LCD IS an inferior technology, but it does not
burn in.

To get back to your direct question, Pioneer IS the best looking set I
have ever seen! I believe the half life of your average plasma is
60,000 hours. Meaning after 60,000 hours it will be half as bright as
it was when you bought it. This would be about 50 years if you were
to watch TV for 3 hours every day of the week.

wrote in message
oups.com...
im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.


As though you'd want to take advice from an idiot who doesn't even know how
to use a caps key. And who obviously has about as much experience with
modern technology and products as an Amish farmer or Kalahari Bushman.

wrote:

im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.


Bullcrap!. Pioneer makes some of the best looking plasmas out there.

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On Apr 20, 11:21 am, Ric Seyler wrote:
wrote:
im not sure which is worse, pioneer or
panasonic. but they are both garbage.
recommend you buy sony.

Bullcrap!. Pioneer makes some of the best looking plasmas out there.

best looking-least reliable
and don't forget, terrible parts and service support.
having worked at a pioneer/panasonic authorized service
center, i can affirm first hand that the product support
and reliability of these manufacturers SUCKS.
panasonic actually has a SECRET service manual,
which discloses what parts were "accidentally left out"
at the factory. after looking up the defect in the secret
manual, the customer is CHARGED parts and labor
to install the missing part(s). SUCKERS!