Closed captioning on FOX HD

Alan,

Any word yet on your replay of the recording on the DVR?

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jim, yes, I was writing about over the air reception, but the issue
would be there for cable reception as well. All the cable company does
is to essentially pass on the signal they get from the local broadcast
station, although they may do some rate-shaping for higher compression
or modify the PSIP header information. The local station takes the
network feed and passes it through it's equipment which allows them to
insert their own station logo or commercials.

If you have contacted the station engineer, it is up to him or her to
bug Fox about the problem. You can go to Fox's website and complain to
their email box, but there is no guarantee that anyone will read it. If
you want to formally complain to the FCC, here is the FCC web page for
guidelines on submitting closed caption complaints:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/tips_on_f...complaint.html.

I have House from last Tuesday on the HD-DVR (for WTTG-DT Fox 5 in
Washington, DC sent via Verizon FiosTV). I will take a look tonight and
see if the captioning is way out of sync.

Alan F



Jim wrote:
Just to clarify Alan, you are talking about High Definition broadcasts
Over the Air?? That is the only place I have any problem.

I have contacted the local stations (2 are receivable from my location).
One has responded and said the network is aware of it - local stations
just pass on what they are sent. I followed up with another question
asking if he could provide me an email or physical address so I can let
FOX know there is a problem.

Thanks for the reply.

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I suggest you complain to the local stations. The problem may or may
not be with Fox, but the local station engineer is the one who has the
responsibility for his station sending out a quality signal. Go to the
station's website and see if you can find a email address or phone # for
the engineering department. If there is only a general contact address,
then start with that. If you do not get any productive responses, you
can always threaten to file a complaint with the FCC.

I have seen prolonged delays on captions, but I have not noticed on it
Fox recently. I do not watch 24, but I did watch House last week and I
do not recall noticing any severe delays in the captions.

Alan F


Jim wrote:
I am a hearing impaired person that requires Closed Captioning to enjoy
Television.

I watch Over The Air High Definition programs when they are available.
I
faithfully watch "24" every Monday night.

I have noticed ever since I've had my HDTV that Fox network does not do
a
good job with Closed Captioning of HD broadcasts. I thought perhaps it
might just have been "24" production but tonight I tried to watch
"House"
and the poor closed captioning persists.

The poor closed captioning I'm referring to, is a 4 - 5 second delay
between
when words are spoken and when they appear on screen. I do not have
this
problem with ABC, CBS, or NBC. Only Fox. When I switch from OTA to
Satellite, the closed captioning is synchronized great, however that
reception is not in High Definition.

I view Fox on two channels from different cities, the problem happens
on
both stations.

I attempted to communicate my problem to the Fox network but I cannot
find
anywhere to submit my complaint.

Perhaps someone here is experiencing the same problem? I'd appreciate
knowing and maybe with a few complaints from consumers, we could get
the
closed captioning straightened out on FOX HD broadcasts.

Thanks,
Jim

Jim, yes. I played back the House episode for that Tuesday and did not
see any noticeable lag between the speech and the captions. This for
WTTG-DT Fox 5 in Washington, DC. I have seen serious lags sometimes for
between the captioning and speed for some programming but not this time.
I have often noticed that they sometimes drop out entire sentences
when someone is talking quickly - or the caption was overwritten before
it could be displayed.

This would have the Fox east coast feed. You didn't post where you are
or what your local Fox stations are, so I don't know if you were
watching a west coast feed from the network.

Alan F



Jim wrote:
Alan,

Any word yet on your replay of the recording on the DVR?

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jim, yes, I was writing about over the air reception, but the issue
would be there for cable reception as well. All the cable company does
is to essentially pass on the signal they get from the local broadcast
station, although they may do some rate-shaping for higher compression
or modify the PSIP header information. The local station takes the
network feed and passes it through it's equipment which allows them to
insert their own station logo or commercials.

If you have contacted the station engineer, it is up to him or her to
bug Fox about the problem. You can go to Fox's website and complain to
their email box, but there is no guarantee that anyone will read it. If
you want to formally complain to the FCC, here is the FCC web page for
guidelines on submitting closed caption complaints:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/tips_on_f...complaint.html.

I have House from last Tuesday on the HD-DVR (for WTTG-DT Fox 5 in
Washington, DC sent via Verizon FiosTV). I will take a look tonight and
see if the captioning is way out of sync.

Alan F



Jim wrote:
Just to clarify Alan, you are talking about High Definition broadcasts
Over the Air?? That is the only place I have any problem.

I have contacted the local stations (2 are receivable from my location).
One has responded and said the network is aware of it - local stations
just pass on what they are sent. I followed up with another question
asking if he could provide me an email or physical address so I can let
FOX know there is a problem.

Thanks for the reply.

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I suggest you complain to the local stations. The problem may or may
not be with Fox, but the local station engineer is the one who has the
responsibility for his station sending out a quality signal. Go to the
station's website and see if you can find a email address or phone # for
the engineering department. If there is only a general contact address,
then start with that. If you do not get any productive responses, you
can always threaten to file a complaint with the FCC.

I have seen prolonged delays on captions, but I have not noticed on it
Fox recently. I do not watch 24, but I did watch House last week and I
do not recall noticing any severe delays in the captions.

Alan F


Jim wrote:
I am a hearing impaired person that requires Closed Captioning to enjoy
Television.

I watch Over The Air High Definition programs when they are available.
I
faithfully watch "24" every Monday night.

I have noticed ever since I've had my HDTV that Fox network does not do
a
good job with Closed Captioning of HD broadcasts. I thought perhaps it
might just have been "24" production but tonight I tried to watch
"House"
and the poor closed captioning persists.

The poor closed captioning I'm referring to, is a 4 - 5 second delay
between
when words are spoken and when they appear on screen. I do not have
this
problem with ABC, CBS, or NBC. Only Fox. When I switch from OTA to
Satellite, the closed captioning is synchronized great, however that
reception is not in High Definition.

I view Fox on two channels from different cities, the problem happens
on
both stations.

I attempted to communicate my problem to the Fox network but I cannot
find
anywhere to submit my complaint.

Perhaps someone here is experiencing the same problem? I'd appreciate
knowing and maybe with a few complaints from consumers, we could get
the
closed captioning straightened out on FOX HD broadcasts.

Thanks,
Jim

I'm in Sebring Florida and watch the Fox out of Ft. Myers/ However, I also
get Fox out of Tampa and both have a long delay between spoken word and
visual word, a little worse than the captioning on a live telecast.

Thanks,

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jim, yes. I played back the House episode for that Tuesday and did not
see any noticeable lag between the speech and the captions. This for
WTTG-DT Fox 5 in Washington, DC. I have seen serious lags sometimes for
between the captioning and speed for some programming but not this time.
I have often noticed that they sometimes drop out entire sentences
when someone is talking quickly - or the caption was overwritten before
it could be displayed.

This would have the Fox east coast feed. You didn't post where you are
or what your local Fox stations are, so I don't know if you were
watching a west coast feed from the network.

Alan F



Jim wrote:
Alan,

Any word yet on your replay of the recording on the DVR?

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Jim, yes, I was writing about over the air reception, but the issue
would be there for cable reception as well. All the cable company does
is to essentially pass on the signal they get from the local broadcast
station, although they may do some rate-shaping for higher compression
or modify the PSIP header information. The local station takes the
network feed and passes it through it's equipment which allows them to
insert their own station logo or commercials.

If you have contacted the station engineer, it is up to him or her to
bug Fox about the problem. You can go to Fox's website and complain to
their email box, but there is no guarantee that anyone will read it. If
you want to formally complain to the FCC, here is the FCC web page for
guidelines on submitting closed caption complaints:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/tips_on_f...complaint.html.

I have House from last Tuesday on the HD-DVR (for WTTG-DT Fox 5 in
Washington, DC sent via Verizon FiosTV). I will take a look tonight and
see if the captioning is way out of sync.

Alan F



Jim wrote:
Just to clarify Alan, you are talking about High Definition broadcasts
Over the Air?? That is the only place I have any problem.

I have contacted the local stations (2 are receivable from my
location). One has responded and said the network is aware of it -
local stations just pass on what they are sent. I followed up with
another question asking if he could provide me an email or physical
address so I can let FOX know there is a problem.

Thanks for the reply.

Jim
"Alan F" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
I suggest you complain to the local stations. The problem may or may
not be with Fox, but the local station engineer is the one who has the
responsibility for his station sending out a quality signal. Go to the
station's website and see if you can find a email address or phone #
for
the engineering department. If there is only a general contact
address,
then start with that. If you do not get any productive responses, you
can always threaten to file a complaint with the FCC.

I have seen prolonged delays on captions, but I have not noticed on
it
Fox recently. I do not watch 24, but I did watch House last week and I
do not recall noticing any severe delays in the captions.

Alan F


Jim wrote:
I am a hearing impaired person that requires Closed Captioning to
enjoy
Television.

I watch Over The Air High Definition programs when they are
available. I
faithfully watch "24" every Monday night.

I have noticed ever since I've had my HDTV that Fox network does not
do a
good job with Closed Captioning of HD broadcasts. I thought perhaps
it
might just have been "24" production but tonight I tried to watch
"House"
and the poor closed captioning persists.

The poor closed captioning I'm referring to, is a 4 - 5 second delay
between
when words are spoken and when they appear on screen. I do not have
this
problem with ABC, CBS, or NBC. Only Fox. When I switch from OTA to
Satellite, the closed captioning is synchronized great, however that
reception is not in High Definition.

I view Fox on two channels from different cities, the problem
happens on
both stations.

I attempted to communicate my problem to the Fox network but I cannot
find
anywhere to submit my complaint.

Perhaps someone here is experiencing the same problem? I'd
appreciate
knowing and maybe with a few complaints from consumers, we could get
the
closed captioning straightened out on FOX HD broadcasts.

Thanks,
Jim

Would you believe that today I sent off a letter to corporate FOX about the
CC problem with High Definition Broadcasts and tonight "24" in HD was in
sync.

Bad timing or just really good response by FOX??? LOL

Jim
"Jim" wrote in message
thlink.net...
I am a hearing impaired person that requires Closed Captioning to enjoy
Television.



I watch Over The Air High Definition programs when they are available. I
faithfully watch "24" every Monday night.



I have noticed ever since I've had my HDTV that Fox network does not do a
good job with Closed Captioning of HD broadcasts. I thought perhaps it
might just have been "24" production but tonight I tried to watch "House"
and the poor closed captioning persists.



The poor closed captioning I'm referring to, is a 4 - 5 second delay
between
when words are spoken and when they appear on screen. I do not have this
problem with ABC, CBS, or NBC. Only Fox. When I switch from OTA to
Satellite, the closed captioning is synchronized great, however that
reception is not in High Definition.



I view Fox on two channels from different cities, the problem happens on
both stations.



I attempted to communicate my problem to the Fox network but I cannot find
anywhere to submit my complaint.



Perhaps someone here is experiencing the same problem? I'd appreciate
knowing and maybe with a few complaints from consumers, we could get the
closed captioning straightened out on FOX HD broadcasts.

Thanks,



Jim