Doctor Who progressive or interlaced? How to record it digitally.

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 05:39:47 +0100, "Agamemnon"
wrote:


I've been forced to go digital since I can no longer find and good quality
video tapes in the shops.

That seems a strange reason. Didn't the reliability, speed of access
and storage capacity of disk based systems have anything to do with
your choice?

No, because of the audio sync wow and flutter problems I was getting with
InterVideo's software I was using previously. In fact WinDVD Creator is so
bad that it can't even synchronise video and audio when converting between
MPEG formats or even sync its own video edits at the correct start points in
its own editor when burning to DVD. Complete rubbish. Pinnacle Studio 8 will
work properly on MEPG files but will not allow me to set the audio bit rate
on AVI conversions or even play back AVI audio in the editor or record DVD's
in 16:9 ratio so I eventually tracked down VirualDub which will let me
create DivX files which I can then burn to DVD and which take up less space.
The only thing I can't do with it is to re-dub audio with it.

Even if there were good quality tapes in the shops, I
wouldn't want them.

Rod.

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

There you go, with those words of wisdom I have single handed saved you
a small fortune, hours of F**king about recording and re-recording all
that mumbo jumbo stuff you're on about up above, and you will even get a
life by being down the pub.

Yer, and come back home with my clothes stinking of fag smoke and
alcohol.

Well, the fag smoke ceases to be a problem after July 1st this year, as
for the alcohol, wear a bib ?

Unless you're in Wales, in which case the cigarette smoke ceased being a
problem from yesterday!

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

Why do you need a DVD recorder if you have a Topfield?


What am I supposed to do when the HDD fills up and I want to keep
something?

Transfer the file out of the Toppy via its USB port.

And then process it on my computer which will take about one and a half
hours. Why don't they add on a DVD recorder that records in DivX and save me
the hastle.


Anyway, why worry, BBC Three repeat Dr Who ad-infinitum.


I don't want to watch it with a horrid DOG on the screen and stupid
scrolling what's next reminders over the closing scenes.

useless amyway since it won't play back on my DVD player whereas DivX will
and it provides better quality and will let my put 6 episodes of Doctor Who
on one single layered DVD at broadcast quality.

That is weird. When I download these things as torrents, they are
usually about 349 MB a piece.. which means you can fit about 12
episodes on a single 4.3 GB (don't be fooled by the 4.7GB claim)
DVD. And these 349 MB files are actually considerably higher quality
than I would be able to capture myself from analog television even if
it were being broadcast here in the states. Of course, I haven't
upgraded to a digital capture board yet.

My DVD player will play Divx files and so this is how I started
collecting them recently. In fact, there are several occasions where
I actually bought a boxed-set of DVDs (not Doctor Who) and wound up
converting them to Divx anyway. The thing that ****es me off is that
I pay good money for a boxed set and they will put like 2 or 3
episodes of a show on a single disc, and give you 5 discs. I guess
they try to make it look like you got your money's worth or
something. But it sure does waste space. The must irritating part of
all is that you have to wait 5 minutes before watching the content
because they put all those various warning messages in 15 different
languages, followed by movie previews and other things that it won't
allow you to skip, followed by some very lengthy menu animation that
must complete before you can finally hit play and watch the movie.
Where if I rip them all to Divx files, I can just stick them in and
hit play.. problem solved.

"Astrobiochemist" wrote in message
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I've been forced to go digital since I can no longer find and good
quality video tapes in the shops.

Wouldn't it be easier to just get a Topfield or similar?

The Topfield does not have a DVD recorder and even if it had I am not
aware of any DVD recorders that record in DivX. The DVD+/-VR format is
completely useless amyway since it won't play back on my DVD player
whereas DivX will and it provides better quality and will let my put 6
episodes of Doctor Who on one single layered DVD at broadcast quality.

Why would you want to record Dr Who? It's made by RTD and to date
you've
hated every single episode.

As I told you before. Now that I have it as digital I can edit out all
the
irrelevant soapy stuff and make the episodes much better.

I'm just curious, how long is each episode without the "soap"? Also,

25 minutes I think.

how well does the episode progress? It seems like the episode would
jump around erratically if you removed the character scenes (i.e.
"soap").

I've figured out that I can cut the opening soapy garbage from episode 1 and
start where the Doctor parades in front of Martha with his tie. The stuff
about the 21st birthday party is covered in another scene on the moon so the
opening rubbish with Marta's dad and the bimbo can all go. The soapy rubbish
and shouting match at the end can also be cut with a direct mix between
Martha listening to the news report and then standing outside the pub when
the Doctor turns up. I can also cut out the stuff with the X-Ray machine
since it is not scientifically accurate, he's only giving the henchman the
does of 1/4 of a chest X-Ray. Now the problem is how to re-edit the load of
nonsense with the MRI machine which would have to be more powerful than the
sun in order to do what the old woman claimed it would do.

"adric22" wrote in message
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useless amyway since it won't play back on my DVD player whereas DivX
will
and it provides better quality and will let my put 6 episodes of Doctor
Who
on one single layered DVD at broadcast quality.

That is weird. When I download these things as torrents, they are
usually about 349 MB a piece.. which means you can fit about 12
episodes on a single 4.3 GB (don't be fooled by the 4.7GB claim)
DVD. And these 349 MB files are actually considerably higher quality
than I would be able to capture myself from analog television even if
it were being broadcast here in the states. Of course, I haven't
upgraded to a digital capture board yet.

In that case they are the same quality as BSG torrents and only letterboxed
instead of anamorphic 720x576 16:9 broadcast quality.


My DVD player will play Divx files and so this is how I started
collecting them recently. In fact, there are several occasions where

So will mine but it does not rescale 288 line content to fill the whole
screen so it appears letter boxed. Its even worse at when the material is
anamorphic or not 720 pixels across since is what you get is a tiny squashed
up rectangle in the middle of the screen on your TV since it wont stretch it
either or take any notice of the tags which tell your computer to do that,
therefore the only way to get a decent picture is to record the programme in
720x576 all the time. The player (Denon 1920) will not even output and 16:9
switching voltages for DivX content even when it is set in the file.

I actually bought a boxed-set of DVDs (not Doctor Who) and wound up
converting them to Divx anyway. The thing that ****es me off is that
I pay good money for a boxed set and they will put like 2 or 3
episodes of a show on a single disc, and give you 5 discs. I guess
they try to make it look like you got your money's worth or
something. But it sure does waste space. The must irritating part of
all is that you have to wait 5 minutes before watching the content
because they put all those various warning messages in 15 different

Bloody annoying that is. The even put trailers after all that crap and won't
let you skip them and this is no stuff you have paid for.

languages, followed by movie previews and other things that it won't
allow you to skip, followed by some very lengthy menu animation that

So you've had them inflicted on you to.

must complete before you can finally hit play and watch the movie.
Where if I rip them all to Divx files, I can just stick them in and
hit play.. problem solved.

adric22 told the audient void (and rec.arts.drwho):
[...] The must irritating part of
all is that you have to wait 5 minutes before watching the content
because they put all those various warning messages in 15 different
languages, followed by movie previews and other things that it won't
allow you to skip, followed by some very lengthy menu animation that
must complete before you can finally hit play and watch the movie.
Where if I rip them all to Divx files, I can just stick them in and
hit play.. problem solved.

I watch my DVDs on my computer for the same reason - there is plenty of
DVD playing software that allows you to skip all the menus and crap,
with varying tradeoffs between user-friendliness and control. (I'm
using mplayer with lsdvd, which is at the "control-freak, not friendly
at all" end of the scale, but then I'm a luddite when it comes to GUIs.)

--
The Glyn of Kennington - remove caps when replying

"it's" - abbrevation for "it is"
"its" - belonging to it, cf. "his", "hers"

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Astrobiochemist" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been forced to go digital since I can no longer find and good
quality video tapes in the shops.

Wouldn't it be easier to just get a Topfield or similar?

The Topfield does not have a DVD recorder and even if it had I am not
aware of any DVD recorders that record in DivX. The DVD+/-VR format
is
completely useless amyway since it won't play back on my DVD player
whereas DivX will and it provides better quality and will let my put
6
episodes of Doctor Who on one single layered DVD at broadcast
quality.

Why would you want to record Dr Who? It's made by RTD and to date
you've
hated every single episode.

As I told you before. Now that I have it as digital I can edit out all
the
irrelevant soapy stuff and make the episodes much better.

I'm just curious, how long is each episode without the "soap"? Also,

25 minutes I think.

how well does the episode progress? It seems like the episode would
jump around erratically if you removed the character scenes (i.e.
"soap").

I've figured out that I can cut the opening soapy garbage from episode 1
and start where the Doctor parades in front of Martha with his tie. The
stuff about the 21st birthday party is covered in another scene on the
moon so the opening rubbish with Marta's dad and the bimbo can all go. The
soapy rubbish and shouting match at the end can also be cut with a direct
mix between Martha listening to the news report and then standing outside
the pub when the Doctor turns up. I can also cut out the stuff with the
X-Ray machine since it is not scientifically accurate, he's only giving
the henchman the does of 1/4 of a chest X-Ray. Now the problem is how to
re-edit the load of nonsense with the MRI machine which would have to be
more powerful than the sun in order to do what the old woman claimed it
would do.




Have you really no idea how ridiculous you make yourself look?

Just stop ****ing watching.

"Stephen Wilson" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

There you go, with those words of wisdom I have single handed saved you
a small fortune, hours of F**king about recording and re-recording all
that mumbo jumbo stuff you're on about up above, and you will even get
a life by being down the pub.

Yer, and come back home with my clothes stinking of fag smoke and
alcohol.

Well, the fag smoke ceases to be a problem after July 1st this year, as
for the alcohol, wear a bib ?

Unless you're in Wales, in which case the cigarette smoke ceased being a
problem from yesterday!



Or in Scotland, where we've been blissfully smoke-free for a year.

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

Why do you need a DVD recorder if you have a Topfield?


What am I supposed to do when the HDD fills up and I want to keep
something?

Transfer the file out of the Toppy via its USB port.

And then process it on my computer which will take about one and a half
hours. Why don't they add on a DVD recorder that records in DivX and save
me the hastle.


Anyway, why worry, BBC Three repeat Dr Who ad-infinitum.


I don't want to watch it with a horrid DOG on the screen



They're rhinos Aggie.

You really do have picture problems...