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"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Phil Ross wrote:
.....from a Stanford University (hardly a bastion of conservatism) --
Hmmm... you might try mentioning that to the Hoover Institute which is
located at Stanford.....

The study in question was not by the Hoover Institute.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

I guess that explains why those flaming liberals Sandra Day O'Connor and
William Rehnquist graduated from Stanford University law school. (I know,
Chelsea Clinton went there so it must be REAL BAD.)
Oh, that's right, I forgot.... there is that other flaming liberal
Condoleezza Rice, who resigned as provost of Stanford University to work for
that ultra liberal of liberals George W. Bush. If this is being "hardly a
bastion of conservatism", what does it actually take to qualify?

On Mar 25, 6:22 pm, "Phil Ross" wrote:
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"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Phil Ross wrote:
.....from a Stanford University (hardly a bastion of conservatism) --
Hmmm... you might try mentioning that to the Hoover Institute which is
located at Stanford.....

The study in question was not by the Hoover Institute.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

I guess that explains why those flaming liberals Sandra Day O'Connor and
William Rehnquist graduated from Stanford University law school. (I know,
Chelsea Clinton went there so it must be REAL BAD.)

Oh, that's right, I forgot.... there is that other flaming liberal
Condoleezza Rice, who resigned as provost of Stanford University to work for
that ultra liberal of liberals George W. Bush. If this is being "hardly a
bastion of conservatism", what does it actually take to qualify?

Why is is so incomprehensible to you that a university can have a
leftward tilt and still turn out someone conservative? You act as if
it's one size fits all. It's just more difficult for a conservative to
get through but obviously not at all impossible.

GG

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On Mar 25, 6:22 pm, "Phil Ross" wrote:
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"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Phil Ross wrote:
.....from a Stanford University (hardly a bastion of
conservatism) --
Hmmm... you might try mentioning that to the Hoover Institute which
is
located at Stanford.....

The study in question was not by the Hoover Institute.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

I guess that explains why those flaming liberals Sandra Day O'Connor
and
William Rehnquist graduated from Stanford University law school. (I
know,
Chelsea Clinton went there so it must be REAL BAD.)

Oh, that's right, I forgot.... there is that other flaming liberal
Condoleezza Rice, who resigned as provost of Stanford University to work
for
that ultra liberal of liberals George W. Bush. If this is being "hardly a
bastion of conservatism", what does it actually take to qualify?

Why is is so incomprehensible to you that a university can have a
leftward tilt and still turn out someone conservative? You act as if
it's one size fits all. It's just more difficult for a conservative to
get through but obviously not at all impossible.

GG


I never said that it was incomprehensible. He made an unsubstantiated
statement that Stanford is "hardly a bastion of conservatism" and I merely
provide some examples that may indicate a lack of foundation for such a
statement. What criteria was being used to conclude that Stanford is such a
liberal institution? Is it merely because of its proximity to lefto pinko
San Francisco in beautiful lefto pinko Palo Alto, or is there some other
specific criteria?

Phil Ross wrote:

Oh, that's right, I forgot.... there is that other flaming liberal
Condoleezza Rice, who resigned as provost of Stanford University to work for
that ultra liberal of liberals George W. Bush. If this is being "hardly a
bastion of conservatism", what does it actually take to qualify?

Sometimes people get so far off to the right that they can no longer tell where
the center is. Everything looks left to them. From that standpoint, all
universities (and maybe all broadcast networks) lean to the left.

Like the old song, "Been down so long, it looks like up to me", only here it's
"Been right so long, it looks like left to me". g

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Phil Ross wrote:
I never said that it was incomprehensible. He made an unsubstantiated
statement that Stanford is "hardly a bastion of conservatism" and I merely
provide some examples that may indicate a lack of foundation for such a
statement. What criteria was being used to conclude that Stanford is such a
liberal institution? Is it merely because of its proximity to lefto pinko
San Francisco in beautiful lefto pinko Palo Alto, or is there some other
specific criteria?

I worked at Stanford for 11 1/2 years. I can assure you that Stanford's
overall ideological tilt is to the left, albeit not anywhere as extreme as
Berkeley or SFSU.

It is possible to go too far to the left at Stanford. The best example is
Bruce Franklin (leader of the Maoist Venceremos clique) who came up with
the idea of the revolutionary potential of the lumpen proletariat. For
those of you not up on your Marxist jargon, TRPOTLP means sending radical
students to visit prisons to recruit violent criminals. Stanford fired
Franklin after he led a violent occupation of the computer center. FWIW,
he's now at Rutgers; like Angela Davis, he's another aging radical
pretending to be a respectable senior intellectual.

A fair way to put it is that as an institution, Stanford is not socialist;
but it most certainly is liberal. The Hoover Institute is *NOT* an
academic department; most of its fellows are conservatives, but that's
because Hoover is where Stanford ends up putting its conservatives.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Jim Gilliland wrote:
Sometimes people get so far off to the right that they can no longer tell
where the center is. Everything looks left to them.

That is true; but there are also people who get so far off to the left
that they can no longer tell where the center is. Everything looks right
to them.

If it is self-evident to you that we should:
. ban all guns
. destroy all nuclear weapons
. have free health care for all
. get people out of their cars and into public transportation
. live in public housing within walking distance of our jobs
. reduce our population
. reduce energy consumption to stop global warming
. pull out all US troops everywhere in the world
. etc. etc.
then it will seem to you that people who disagree with these principles
are far-right, ignorant, stupid, and/or evil.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
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That is true; but there are also people who get so far off to the left
that they can no longer tell where the center is. Everything looks right
to them.

If it is self-evident to you that we should:
. ban all guns
. destroy all nuclear weapons
. have free health care for all
. get people out of their cars and into public transportation
. live in public housing within walking distance of our jobs
. reduce our population
. reduce energy consumption to stop global warming
. pull out all US troops everywhere in the world
. etc. etc.
then it will seem to you that people who disagree with these principles
are far-right, ignorant, stupid, and/or evil.

-- Mark --
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What do I get for scoring 100% (on disagreement)?

Richard C. wrote:
"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
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That is true; but there are also people who get so far off to the left
that they can no longer tell where the center is. Everything looks
right to them.

If it is self-evident to you that we should:
. ban all guns
. destroy all nuclear weapons
. have free health care for all
. get people out of their cars and into public transportation
. live in public housing within walking distance of our jobs
. reduce our population
. reduce energy consumption to stop global warming
. pull out all US troops everywhere in the world
. etc. etc.
then it will seem to you that people who disagree with these
principles are far-right, ignorant, stupid, and/or evil.

-- Mark --
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What do I get for scoring 100% (on disagreement)?

I wonder how many red blooded, patriotic taxpayers score something other
than 0% or 100%.

Most, I would think.

Matthew

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