Component cable question

On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:





On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comand buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!

Chip

Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.

The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.

Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.

I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.

Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Check out www.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike

On 16 Mar 2007 21:21:04 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:





On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comand buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!

Chip

Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.

The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.

Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.

I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.

Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Check out www.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike

Yeah... great stuff... At twenty times what it is worth.

You'd have to buy it in 35 gallon drums to even get close to a
decent price.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'll sell you.

You'd be better off with the best.

http://www.ensolv.com/P_ensolv.htm

Also, very expensive industry targeted media, BTW.

MassiveProng wrote:
On 16 Mar 2007 21:21:04 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:





On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comand buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!
Chip
Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.
The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.
Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.
I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.
Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Check out www.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike

Yeah... great stuff... At twenty times what it is worth.

You'd have to buy it in 35 gallon drums to even get close to a
decent price.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'll sell you.

You'd be better off with the best.

http://www.ensolv.com/P_ensolv.htm

Also, very expensive industry targeted media, BTW.

An small amount will last for years, however. I bought a can of
Cramolin in 1987 and still have must of it after many uses. It was the
only thing I could find which worked on the ISA card contacts of the
Compaq Deskpro I had at the time.


Cramolin is no longer available; de-oxit is the replacement.

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:21:40 -0700, Bob Nielsen Gave
us:

MassiveProng wrote:
On 16 Mar 2007 21:21:04 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:





On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comand buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!
Chip
Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.
The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.
Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.
I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.
Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Check out www.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike

Yeah... great stuff... At twenty times what it is worth.

You'd have to buy it in 35 gallon drums to even get close to a
decent price.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'll sell you.

You'd be better off with the best.

http://www.ensolv.com/P_ensolv.htm

Also, very expensive industry targeted media, BTW.

An small amount will last for years, however. I bought a can of
Cramolin in 1987 and still have must of it after many uses. It was the
only thing I could find which worked on the ISA card contacts of the
Compaq Deskpro I had at the time.


Cramolin is no longer available; de-oxit is the replacement.


So. I am not looking to replace something I didn't ever use with
something I don't use.

The ensolve is bromide based, which is what makes it so good.

Better than the "cramolin replacement".

Oh and ISA contacts? Sheesh, just get out the pencil eraser!

Bwuahahahaha!

Sounds like Compaq picked the wrong cheap chinese replacement for a
good brand (ie AMP) connector to use on their overtly proprietary PC
hardware. Yeah, I know that ISA isn't proprietary, but a lot of their
CRAP was.Thanks for the laugh though.

On Mar 16, 9:58 pm, MassiveProng
wrote:
On 16 Mar 2007 21:21:04 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:





On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comandbuy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!

Chip

Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.

The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.

Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.

I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.

Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Check outwww.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike

Yeah... great stuff... At twenty times what it is worth.

You'd have to buy it in 35 gallon drums to even get close to a
decent price.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'll sell you.

You'd be better off with the best.

http://www.ensolv.com/P_ensolv.htm

Also, very expensive industry targeted media, BTW.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry, I'll go with a product that ALLWAYS works and is safe to use.
Ensolv can be toxic and is, I think, 100% VOC. Will be obsolete very
soon.
Mike

On 3/16/2007, Bill Vermillion posted this:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go to www.monoprice.com or www.svideo.com and buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!

Chip

Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are
overhyped BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of
them anyway. And then come back to the group and regale us all with how
wonderful they are.

The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.

Bill

I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.

I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.

Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.

Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

Ya got me there. I don't know about PS bricks or what Tice clocks are
:-)

I'm sure if I learned something about them it would be an eye-opener...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

On 17 Mar 2007 15:21:22 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

Sorry, I'll go with a product that ALLWAYS works and is safe to use.
Ensolv can be toxic and is, I think, 100% VOC. Will be obsolete very
soon.
Mike


"Can be toxic"??? You're an idiot.

VOCs??? ZERO, dumb****tard.

MassiveProng wrote:
On 17 Mar 2007 15:21:22 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

Sorry, I'll go with a product that ALLWAYS works and is safe to use.
Ensolv can be toxic and is, I think, 100% VOC. Will be obsolete very
soon.
Mike


"Can be toxic"??? You're an idiot.

VOCs??? ZERO, dumb****tard.

According to the company's MSDS and TechDataSheet:

http://www.ensolv.com/pdfs/1001%202E...olv%20MSDS.pdf
and
http://www.ensolv.com/pdfs/6000%20En...ta%20Sheet.pdf

VOCs 11.0lbs/gal = 100%

Although not specifically a carcinogen, one of the components, the
stabalizer package, is classified as possibly carcinogenic.

As for the general health and safety guidelines, it sure looks
potentially toxic.

I wouldn't want to get it on my hands or breathe it for very long.

MassiveProng wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:21:40 -0700, Bob Nielsen Gave
us:

MassiveProng wrote:
On 16 Mar 2007 21:21:04 -0700, "shaq" Gave us:

On Mar 16, 9:25 am, (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article ,
Gene E. Bloch wrote:





On 3/09/2007, Bill Jeffrey posted this:
Step away from the Monster and Acoustic Research cables! NOW!
Go towww.monoprice.comorwww.svideo.comand buy the cables
there. Generics are just as good as high priced ones. Really!
Chip
Six out of six responses agree that Monster Cable and AR Cable are overhyped
BS. And you know what, boys? He's going to go out and buy one of them anyway.
And then come back to the group and regale us all with how wonderful they
are.
The BS'ers rely on the gullibility of such people - and apparently they are
successful.
Bill
I read the customer reviews and testimonials on a site for some
kind of paint to improve the contacts on plugs & jacks. Wish I
could post the link, but I didn't bookmark it, and unfortunately
I've forgotten it.
I remember from the past that something called Stabilant-22 and/or
Cramolin were recommended. The former becomes conductive when an
electrical signal is passed through.

Cramolin is a contact cleaner.

You can find info on either by using Google.

Most of the people seemed to use it on the audio and video
connections, as I would've expected, but some people used it on
their power cord connectors, and they raved about the resulting
great improvement in the sound-stage and presence.
Bill Jeffrey, P. T. Barnum, and H. L. Mencken were right.
Particulary about using it on the power connectors. That goes
right along with the bricks on the power supply and the Tice
clocks.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Check out www.deoxit.com
Lots of good stuff.
Mike
Yeah... great stuff... At twenty times what it is worth.

You'd have to buy it in 35 gallon drums to even get close to a
decent price.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I'll sell you.

You'd be better off with the best.

http://www.ensolv.com/P_ensolv.htm

Also, very expensive industry targeted media, BTW.
An small amount will last for years, however. I bought a can of
Cramolin in 1987 and still have must of it after many uses. It was the
only thing I could find which worked on the ISA card contacts of the
Compaq Deskpro I had at the time.


Cramolin is no longer available; de-oxit is the replacement.


So. I am not looking to replace something I didn't ever use with
something I don't use.

The ensolve is bromide based, which is what makes it so good.

Better than the "cramolin replacement".

Oh and ISA contacts? Sheesh, just get out the pencil eraser!

Bwuahahahaha!

Sounds like Compaq picked the wrong cheap chinese replacement for a
good brand (ie AMP) connector to use on their overtly proprietary PC
hardware. Yeah, I know that ISA isn't proprietary, but a lot of their
CRAP was.Thanks for the laugh though.

The Compaq proprietary power connector was as bad as the ISA contacts.
I had some software incompatibilities as well (probably their BIOS).
Later I was given a Compaq laptop and it was a POS also.

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 02:51:16 GMT, AlphaBeater
Gave us:

I wouldn't want to get it on my hands or breathe it for very long.


Did you even look at the LD-50 numbers, dip****?

And as to the VOCs, why, after cleaning a board with it, does the
VOC immersion tank read zero?

Why? Because it leaves NONE behind. It, in fact, removes them.

Do you even know what a vapor phase cleaning process is or how it
works?