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Old March 12th 07, 03:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


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Old March 12th 07, 03:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using
64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


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Thought it was to be variable and from 3 dependant on your transmitter.
Eg a present 4 channel relay transmitter site, BBC1, 2, ITV1 and CH4, would
have 3 mux's when converted to digital after anologue switch off.
So digital is not all good news for some.
Regards
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Old March 12th 07, 03:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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David wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
news
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


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Thought it was to be variable and from 3 dependant on your
transmitter. Eg a present 4 channel relay transmitter site, BBC1, 2, ITV1
and CH4,
would have 3 mux's when converted to digital after anologue switch
off. So digital is not all good news for some.



True.


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Old March 12th 07, 03:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Mar 12, 2:20 pm, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


Yes. six for definite, another two possibly, depending on what Ofcom/
DCMS decide about the 'digital dividend' sell off of UHF Chs 31-40 and
63-68.

The six muxes will only be available from the present 80 stations that
already carry DTT, plus Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
stations will only carry 3 muxes.

Predicted population coverage will be 90% for the six muxes, 99%ish
for three.

Present DTT coverage is about 73% (for Mux 1)

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Old March 12th 07, 03:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8
DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what their
eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it looks
to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T muxes for
Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up and auctioned off.
So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the broadcasters win the auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


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Old March 12th 07, 03:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mark Carver wrote:
On Mar 12, 2:20 pm, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


Yes. six for definite, another two possibly, depending on what Ofcom/
DCMS decide about the 'digital dividend' sell off of UHF Chs 31-40 and
63-68.



Yes, that confirms what I've just said in another post. Thanks.


The six muxes will only be available from the present 80 stations that
already carry DTT, plus Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
stations will only carry 3 muxes.

Predicted population coverage will be 90% for the six muxes, 99%ish
for three.

Present DTT coverage is about 73% (for Mux 1)



Right.


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Old March 12th 07, 10:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8
DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what
their eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it
looks to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T muxes
for Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up and auctioned
off. So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the broadcasters win the
auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


Unless OfCom sells out to Sky and lets them broadcast in their own
proprietary MPEG-4 system in which case there will only be 5 multiplexes
available on Freeview.

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Old March 12th 07, 11:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Agamemnon wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what
their eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it
looks to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T
muxes for Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up
and auctioned off. So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the
broadcasters win the auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


Unless OfCom sells out to Sky and lets them broadcast in their own
proprietary MPEG-4 system in which case there will only be 5
multiplexes available on Freeview.



Does Sky own a full multiplex? If not, and I've never heard that they do,
then I think all Sky is actually doing is using the capacity it already has,
withdrawing Sky 3, Sky News and Sky Sports News and launching 4 TV channels
using MPEG-4 and making them a mini subscription service, a bit like Top-Up
TV.

So the situation with capacity will be unchanged, albeit that there will be
3 less TV channels.


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Old March 13th 07, 10:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Edster wrote:
Mike Henry wrote in message

"Sky is to postpone plans to take its channels off Freeview and is
considering showing football on Sky One


Great. More schedules ****ed up to make room for some blokes kicking a
ball about and kissing each other.


Does anybody actually bother to watch Sky One ? Surely it's cheaper to buy the
DVD boxed sets of whatever series you might want to watch, and view them
without DOGs, commercials, or ILR reject continuity announcers jabbering all
over the end credits ?

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Old March 13th 07, 11:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mike Henry wrote:

I doubt it would be cheaper, but anyway I've just watched the world
premiere of the Stargate SG-1 final episode. Obviously I FF through
adverts as I've done for 5 1/2 years with my TiVo. To wait for and enjoy
a DVD version would entail many months of difficult spoiler-avoidance.


I managed it with Series 5 of 24. Watched the last ep on DVD last weekend, but
I take your point.


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