Picture-in-picture. Do you want it?

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:15:57 +0000, wrote:

Please do not kill file Wes - he is way to much fun,,,

This from the stupid sob that thinks OTA HD is going away. BTW, one of our
stations just switched all local news to HD.:-)

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To bad.. So sad... Haven't you heard Core2Duo KICKS ASS on AMD anything!

Poor Wes... He can't afford a REAL system... so he plays with yesterday's
technology (if you don't believe me, check out his links!)

SoCalCommie

"You get what you pay for is BS" - Wes (paraphrased in his moment(s) of
insanity)

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:42:22 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

Your 'system' as stated on your links doesn't have enough HP for that
you
asshole!

WTF are you talking about moron? I don't have the hardware I use listed
anywhere on my site. I'm using an Athlon 64 AM2 X2 dual core today.

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"NadCixelsyd" wrote in message
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To me, PIP is a very desirable feature. Am I in the minority? I'm
finding that only about 40% of the HD sets have it. When I bought my
first HD set last summer, even fewer had it. Is it because most
people don't care? I'm estimating that another tuner would add $30-50
to the cost. I'm willing to pay it. Are you?

I'd be willing to pay an extra $200 and have them add 3 extra tuners:
One for the channel-up, one for channel-down, and one for PIP.
Because only changed pixels are transmitted, unchanged pixels are not
updated all that often. For this reason, the tuner may take upwards
of two seconds to assemble a complete picture and change the channel.
If the TV had 3 or four pictures already assembled and ready to
display, changing channels would be instantaneous.

OK, here's a channel-surfer's dream: Four tuners, each displaying one
quarter of the screen on a 50" plasma. When a program interest's you,
make that channel full screen. My God, you could watch four football
games at the same time. I wouldn't, but you could.

I had it back in the 80's and it was pretty cool to see what else was on but
I used it mainly to channel surf while a commercial was on. Switch current
program w/commercial in small screen, channel surf in big screen. When
commercial was over, exchange pictures and turn off PIP.

But presently for me, the hassle of PIP is no longer needed - I have a guide
feature (Dish Network) and DVR recording to facilitate zipping through
commercials. I have a Samsung 46" LCD w/PIP and do not use it.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:45:41 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote:

Since you insist on top posting.. I know you were talking to me you moron,
but what you are too benighted to understand was that the $5 tuner I was
talking about wasn't a PCI tuner card but the bare tuner chip. That's what
they'd use for PIP in a TV. And I've never stated anything about buying
tuner cards for $5 on ebay. I have stated under $20 and I've bought more
than one for under $20. Now go to ebay and see if you can find a cheap
brain to replace your obviously defective one.

Why are YOU top posting?
Thumper

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:12:37 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

FLAME
My my... I wasn't replying to the OP, I was replying to you (that's what
'nesting' is all about). YOU were the one to bring up your $5 BS. You never
miss your chance to brag about your cheap alternative (LINUX box w/ free
software, cheap tuners, yadda, yadda, yadda). So frgg'n what! I guess you
don't consider your labor time valuable. I consider paying a few $$$thousand
for 'state-of-the-art' cheap in comparison to my labor rates. I currently
run 4 NTSC tuners and 2 ATSC tuners on my main setup (MCE2005 w/ 2 PVR500
pci & 2 FusionHDTV5 Express pci-e)... and could easily add 4 more on USB...
with 1.5TByts of dedicated video storage in RAID5. Top that ****head!

I didn't know we had a competition going on. So you can add 4 more tuners
on usb. So what. So could I, plus 9 more PCI tuners in the other slave
backends, and then as many more ethernet tuners as I wanted. I don't see
your point to all this. I only have have 600GB of dedicated video storage
at this time. If I needed more, I could certainly add it. And I don't
consider it important enough to run as raid 5 so I run mine in raid 0. So
I guess you win the storage part.:-)

You bottom posting idiot! (contrary to popular folklore...'usenet' has
no rules as to top or bottom posting - it's a matter of personal
preference - and a soure of many an idiot's flame-war) /FLAME
SoCalCommie

Well, you can be jerk and not consider those that come behing your top
posting that are trying to follow the thread and it gets all screwed up.
But I'd expect nothing else from a person like you. There's a reason top
posting is not considered good. i guess you're just too damn stupid to
understand it.

"Behind every great fortune is a crime." - Honore de Balzac

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:15:07 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

Stop with the $5.00 crap for a DTV tuner. They don't exist - not even
on eBay! (You must have bought 'em all!)

You frickin top posting moron, he's not talking about PCI or STB
tuners. He's talking about a second tuner in the TV. They actually cost
less than $5 each. More like $3 each in quanty of 1000. now crawl back
in your hole, peek your head out and watch and learn something. If you
want to be a know it all, you should at least know something. BTW,
there is a license fee for ATSC, but I think that would cover multiple
tuners in a device. No, I don't know for sure, but even if a fee is
required per tuner, I recall it being about $6.

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:28:32 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

To bad.. So sad... Haven't you heard Core2Duo KICKS ASS on AMD anything!

Yes. And I used to recommend them til I bought a socket 775 and core 2 duo
system. After seeing the **** poor design of the socket I took it back.

Poor Wes... He can't afford a REAL system... so he plays with
yesterday's technology (if you don't believe me, check out his links!)

If you feel so bad for me just send money via paypal.:-)

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:53:42 -0600, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:28:32 GMT, SoCalCommie wrote:
To bad.. So sad... Haven't you heard Core2Duo KICKS ASS on AMD anything!

Poor Wes... He can't afford a REAL system... so he plays with yesterday's
technology (if you don't believe me, check out his links!)

If you pester him enough, he'll admit to watching his HD content on a
1280x1024 display cropped to 4:3 as well.

Every "TV" in my house runs off a MythTV box. Some have monitors, and one
even has an old analog TV running 480i. The monitors are capable of
1600x1200, but I chose to run them at 1280x1024. In 16:9 zoomed mode, that
about the same as 1920x1080 for the displayed portion moron. If that's too
complicated for you to figure out, ask, and I'll explain. Otherwise go
chain your mama in the back yard.

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I don't want to pester him ;-) I just want him to STFU! His arrogance ****es
me off! And the fact that he thinks he's superior to the rabble because he
uses LINUX... BFD... I've used/programmed under BSD 4.2 and SystemV, but I
don't consider myself superior to anyone. I think Win2K is the best OS
Mickysloth ever came up with (and MCE2005 is cool - after I 'bend' it a
little bit).

And if you want a state-of-the-art network HDTV server, see
http://www.9thtee.com/hdhomerun.htm A simpler/cheaper alternative to Wes'
'solution'! Ain't technology wonderful! (I've just ordered one.)

SoCalCommie

"Behind every great fortune is a crime." - Honore de Balzac

"Peter H. Coffin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:28:32 GMT, SoCalCommie wrote:
To bad.. So sad... Haven't you heard Core2Duo KICKS ASS on AMD anything!

Poor Wes... He can't afford a REAL system... so he plays with
yesterday's
technology (if you don't believe me, check out his links!)

If you pester him enough, he'll admit to watching his HD content on a
1280x1024 display cropped to 4:3 as well.

--
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The sound of peacocks being shredded can't possibly be any worse than
the sound of peacocks not being shredded.
-- Tanuki

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:36:13 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

And if you want a state-of-the-art network HDTV server, see
http://www.9thtee.com/hdhomerun.htm A simpler/cheaper alternative to Wes'
'solution'! Ain't technology wonderful! (I've just ordered one.)

That's just a dual ethernet tuner you damn moron. It's worthless without a
PC to plug it into. Oh, btw, just to **** you off more, it is compatable
with MythTV.:-) let's see what it says.:-)

Works with popular DVR softwa

* Pause, rewind, fast-forward live TV.
* Record all your favorite TV shows by name.
* Fully integrated 14-day TV guide (with MythTV, MediaPortal, and others).

Note: MythTV

Compatible With:

* MediaPortal - DVR for Windows (currently in beta)
* SageTV - DVR software for Windows, Linux and Mac
* MythTV - DVR for Linux and Mac.
* Pluto - Home automation and media system
* Windows Media Center (currently in beta)

Note MythTV and what it says about media center.:-)

All you're doing arguing with me is showing how ****ing stupid you are.
Now tuck your tail and take off.:-)

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So... it works with MythTV. So ****ing what. Do you have one?... NO You've
got your old kludge you put together youself, and your crappy TV's etc.

"...just a dual ethernet tuner" No ****. Of course it has a CPU an OS
(probably LINUX), and RAM. It's a DEDICATED computer MORON! And your
worthless with or without being 'plugged into' your computer nitwit.

BTW I watch TV on a true 1920x1080 37" monitor at about 3' away (it's on my
desk).

The only thing I'm going to 'tuck' is my foot in your ass!

SoCalCommie

"Behind every great fortune is a crime." - Honore de Balzac

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:36:13 +0000, SoCalCommie wrote:

And if you want a state-of-the-art network HDTV server, see
http://www.9thtee.com/hdhomerun.htm A simpler/cheaper alternative to
Wes'
'solution'! Ain't technology wonderful! (I've just ordered one.)

That's just a dual ethernet tuner you damn moron. It's worthless without a
PC to plug it into. Oh, btw, just to **** you off more, it is compatable
with MythTV.:-) let's see what it says.:-)

Works with popular DVR softwa

* Pause, rewind, fast-forward live TV.
* Record all your favorite TV shows by name.
* Fully integrated 14-day TV guide (with MythTV, MediaPortal, and
others).

Note: MythTV

Compatible With:

* MediaPortal - DVR for Windows (currently in beta)
* SageTV - DVR software for Windows, Linux and Mac
* MythTV - DVR for Linux and Mac.
* Pluto - Home automation and media system
* Windows Media Center (currently in beta)

Note MythTV and what it says about media center.:-)

All you're doing arguing with me is showing how ****ing stupid you are.
Now tuck your tail and take off.:-)

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"NadCixelsyd" wrote in message
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To me, PIP is a very desirable feature. Am I in the minority? I'm
finding that only about 40% of the HD sets have it. When I bought my
first HD set last summer, even fewer had it. Is it because most
people don't care? I'm estimating that another tuner would add $30-50
to the cost. I'm willing to pay it. Are you?

I can count on one hand the number of times I have used PIP in the last 5
years.