Is anyone "winning" the HD-DVD race?

Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

On 2007-03-07, NadCixelsyd wrote:
Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

HD-DVD had an early lead in disc sales but Blu-Ray has pulled ahead now. Market
penetration of both is still very small.

HD-DVD has been quite a bit cheaper, but Blu-Ray is coming down.

Title selection is still slim. If the industry doesn't start making boatloads
of money I suspect both will languish and be abandonned eventually.

You can finds tons of info and "debate" he

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...sprune=7&f=148

A tip: save your eyes by going to the bottom of the page and selecting "AVS
White" for the style.

-Bill
--
Sattre Press In the Quarter
http://sattre-press.com/ by Robert W. Chambers
http://sattre-press.com/itq.html

"Bill McClain" wrote in message
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On 2007-03-07, NadCixelsyd wrote:
Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

HD-DVD had an early lead in disc sales but Blu-Ray has pulled ahead now.
Market
penetration of both is still very small.

HD-DVD has been quite a bit cheaper, but Blu-Ray is coming down.

Title selection is still slim. If the industry doesn't start making
boatloads
of money I suspect both will languish and be abandonned eventually.

You can finds tons of info and "debate" he

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...sprune=7&f=148

A tip: save your eyes by going to the bottom of the page and selecting
"AVS
White" for the style.

-Bill
--
Sattre Press In the Quarter
http://sattre-press.com/ by Robert W. Chambers
http://sattre-press.com/itq.html


First you have to have an HD television, then buy a new player (which are
still rather expensive), then replace your existing collection (if you want
HD) with discs that currently cost more. And to make matters worse, there
is the ongoing discussion about how much better the picture quality really
is based on resolutions and viewing distances, etc. It seems to be a
technology who's time has not yet come. As manufacturers start phasing out
SD in favor of HD, and, when Wal-Mart starts selling the players and discs
of either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray at bargain prices it will take off. Time will
tell.
BTW, the AVS forums site listed above MAY contain spyware from
ads.adbrite.com.

stevev wrote:
"Bill McClain" wrote in message
...

On 2007-03-07, NadCixelsyd wrote:

Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

HD-DVD had an early lead in disc sales but Blu-Ray has pulled ahead now.
Market
penetration of both is still very small.

HD-DVD has been quite a bit cheaper, but Blu-Ray is coming down.

Title selection is still slim. If the industry doesn't start making
boatloads
of money I suspect both will languish and be abandonned eventually.

You can finds tons of info and "debate" he

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...sprune=7&f=148

A tip: save your eyes by going to the bottom of the page and selecting
"AVS
White" for the style.

-Bill
--
Sattre Press In the Quarter
http://sattre-press.com/ by Robert W. Chambers
http://sattre-press.com/itq.html



First you have to have an HD television, then buy a new player (which are
still rather expensive), then replace your existing collection (if you want
HD) with discs that currently cost more. And to make matters worse, there
is the ongoing discussion about how much better the picture quality really
is based on resolutions and viewing distances, etc. It seems to be a
technology who's time has not yet come. As manufacturers start phasing out
SD in favor of HD, and, when Wal-Mart starts selling the players and discs
of either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray at bargain prices it will take off. Time will
tell.
BTW, the AVS forums site listed above MAY contain spyware from
ads.adbrite.com.


Don't forget rentals. I rent from Blockbuster.com and just checked.
Blockbuster
HD-DVD - almost 200 titles
Blu-Ray - almost 200 titles

NetFlix
Looks like 150 - 200 HD movies
-Mike

(I got a 32" CRT set 1.5 years ago for $650USD. Plus I am about ready
for a DVD player upgrade anyway to get better video/audio features. So
for about $1000USD I can have HDTV, HD-DVD player and rent almost 200
movies right now.)

Bill McClain wrote:
On 2007-03-07, NadCixelsyd wrote:
Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

HD-DVD had an early lead in disc sales but Blu-Ray has pulled ahead now. Market
penetration of both is still very small.

HD-DVD has been quite a bit cheaper, but Blu-Ray is coming down.

Title selection is still slim. If the industry doesn't start making boatloads
of money I suspect both will languish and be abandonned eventually.

I've really not paid much attention. It's pretty clear that the concept of a
"winner" here is irrelevant, and the only reasonable consumer strategy is to
wait a while and buy a deck that can play both formats. There are some on the
market today, but they're pricey.

But I did look over the list of published films on the two formats this morning,
just to see what was out there. Frankly, I was amazed at how poor the selection
is. There are only a handful of films in either format that I'd choose to own.
And I already own those films on DVD, so it's unlikely that I'd buy them again.

My next TV may well be a 1080p, but that's only because the prices on them are
dropping so quickly. Many of the 50" to 56" sets are available for under $2K at
this point (and I paid almost $3K for my 43" 720p DLP only three years ago).

But I'm not in any hurry for the player.

On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:22:52 -0500
Jim Gilliland wrote:

But I did look over the list of published films on the two formats this morning,
just to see what was out there. Frankly, I was amazed at how poor the selection
is. There are only a handful of films in either format that I'd choose to own.
And I already own those films on DVD, so it's unlikely that I'd buy them again.

Yea, I get the impression that Hollywood doesn't want any "valuable" films
released in any HD format. I constantly see ads for "Own in in fabulous HD
on Tuesday!!!" movies that were in theatres about 3 weeks ago and totally
bombed, but I never see any promos for films I might actually want in HD.

How many times can you pay for the same movie?

Lets see...

First pay for it at the movie theater.

Then pay for it on HBO (or pay per view).

Then pay for it on VHS (guess I'm talking about an old movie).

Then pay for it on DVD (well, it's the wife's favorite).

Then pay for it on HD/BlueRay (wife's got to see it in HD).

Whoops, I picked the looser and now it's obsolete. Pay for it again on the
other format.

Hooray, I managed to pay for the same movie six times. Hollywood must love
technology!

--
Bob D.

"stevev" wrote in message
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"Bill McClain" wrote in message
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On 2007-03-07, NadCixelsyd wrote:
Is one technology outselling the other or is it a neck-and-neck race?
Is one technology less expensive than the other?

HD-DVD had an early lead in disc sales but Blu-Ray has pulled ahead now.
Market
penetration of both is still very small.

HD-DVD has been quite a bit cheaper, but Blu-Ray is coming down.

Title selection is still slim. If the industry doesn't start making
boatloads
of money I suspect both will languish and be abandonned eventually.

You can finds tons of info and "debate" he

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...sprune=7&f=148

A tip: save your eyes by going to the bottom of the page and selecting
"AVS
White" for the style.

-Bill
--
Sattre Press In the Quarter
http://sattre-press.com/ by Robert W. Chambers
http://sattre-press.com/itq.html


First you have to have an HD television, then buy a new player (which are
still rather expensive), then replace your existing collection (if you
want HD) with discs that currently cost more. And to make matters worse,
there is the ongoing discussion about how much better the picture quality
really is based on resolutions and viewing distances, etc. It seems to be
a technology who's time has not yet come. As manufacturers start phasing
out SD in favor of HD, and, when Wal-Mart starts selling the players and
discs of either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray at bargain prices it will take off.
Time will tell.
BTW, the AVS forums site listed above MAY contain spyware from
ads.adbrite.com.

I bought an HD-DVD player and I own exactly one HD-DVD movie... King Kong.
I was so impressed I have gone back to buying DVDs. It looks nice, but for
most films it isn't worth it for me to pay the extra $10-15; it just isn't
as big an improvement as HDTV over SDTV.


--
Mac Cool

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:09:22 -0600, "Peter H. Coffin"
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 00:13:12 -0500, Bob D. wrote:
How many times can you pay for the same movie?

Lets see...

First pay for it at the movie theater.

Then pay for it on HBO (or pay per view).

Then pay for it on VHS (guess I'm talking about an old movie).

Laserdisc.

Then pay for it on DVD (well, it's the wife's favorite).

Then pay for it on HD/BlueRay (wife's got to see it in HD).

Whoops, I picked the looser and now it's obsolete. Pay for it again on the
other format.
The new players are coming out that will play both HD and Blue RAy.



Hooray, I managed to pay for the same movie six times. Hollywood must love
technology!
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger" wrote in message
The new players are coming out that will play both HD and Blue RAy.



Hooray, I managed to pay for the same movie six times. Hollywood must
love
technology!
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


The LG dual format (not counting regular DVD's) is already out. Saw it at
Best Buy
the other day. But, the price is way to high to get my interest or money!!
$1,199.00 !!!!!!!!!!!!! And that is for a player only. It doesn't record
and according to
reviews, it is slow and has problems with the extended "features" on HD DVD
movies.
I think it's going to be a while before I adopt either format or a dual
format player/recorder.
I wouldn't think of dropping that kind of money on a player. And it would be
amost the same
feelings for a recorder that does both formats too. Just way too much money.
I'll wait a couple of years and see what happens.
james