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Old March 4th 07, 07:11 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
SilkBC
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Hi There,

I have the following components:

1.) Technics SA-DX1050 Receiver (several input/output connectors: S-
Video, r/w/y composite)
2.) Motorola digital cable box (r/w/y composite output)
3.) RCA TV (r/w/y/ composite input, r/w composite output, S-Video
out)

The receiver I got from my brother, and of course do not have the
manual for.

(I have a couple other components, such as DVD player and media center
PC, but I want to get TV/cable working first, and the other componets
will be easy to add on)

I am successful in getting sound coming out but no video. I have the
R/W/Y composite outputs on the Motorola digital cable box connected to
the "TV" R/W/Y composite inputs on the receiver.

When I change the selector on the receiver to "TV", I of course get
sound through the speakers connected to the receiver.

When I connect the yellow composite input on the RCA TV to the yellow
composite output on the receiver, I still get no video. I have also
tried using the S-Video connectors on the TV and receiver, but still
no video.

What am I missing? Your advise and suggestions greatly appreciated.

TIA! :-)

-Alan M.

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Old March 4th 07, 07:37 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
dezza
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Is this the manual that you need ?

http://support.panasonic.co.nz/docst...950%20book.pdf


Dezza.

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Old March 4th 07, 07:40 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Have you gone into the setting on the Motorola digital cable box and
chosen composite or svideo ?

Dezza.

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Old March 4th 07, 09:16 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Rich Clark
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"SilkBC" wrote in message
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Hi There,

I have the following components:

1.) Technics SA-DX1050 Receiver (several input/output connectors: S-
Video, r/w/y composite)
2.) Motorola digital cable box (r/w/y composite output)
3.) RCA TV (r/w/y/ composite input, r/w composite output, S-Video
out)

The receiver I got from my brother, and of course do not have the
manual for.

(I have a couple other components, such as DVD player and media center
PC, but I want to get TV/cable working first, and the other componets
will be easy to add on)

I am successful in getting sound coming out but no video. I have the
R/W/Y composite outputs on the Motorola digital cable box connected to
the "TV" R/W/Y composite inputs on the receiver.

When I change the selector on the receiver to "TV", I of course get
sound through the speakers connected to the receiver.

When I connect the yellow composite input on the RCA TV to the yellow
composite output on the receiver, I still get no video. I have also
tried using the S-Video connectors on the TV and receiver, but still
no video.

What am I missing? Your advise and suggestions greatly appreciated.


Connect the video out on the cable box directly to the TV to make sure the
TV is set to the correct input. Then re-connect to go through the receiver.
Unless the receiver is malfunctioning, it's more likely a problem on the TV
end.

Keep in mind that this receiver probably can't convert between input
types -- you'll need separate composite and s-video connections between the
receiver and the TV in order to use whichever components are connected to
the receiver via one or the other type.

RichC


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Old March 4th 07, 07:35 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
SilkBC
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On Mar 4, 12:16 am, "Rich Clark" wrote:
Connect the video out on the cable box directly to the TV to make sure the
TV is set to the correct input. Then re-connect to go through the receiver.
Unless the receiver is malfunctioning, it's more likely a problem on the TV
end.


I have connected the the digital cable box outputs directly to the
inputs on the TV, and it works fine (used the r/w/y composite
connectors).

When I then connect the TV's video input (either the yellow composite
or the S-Video) to the receiver's video output (for the TV), I get
"unuseable signal" on the TV. I am not 100% sure if the S-Video
connector on the TV is input or output, as it is not clearly labelled
as an input or output type. To further confuse matters, it is
situated beside the audio outputs, though still not clearly labelled.

Keep in mind that this receiver probably can't convert between input
types -- you'll need separate composite and s-video connections between the
receiver and the TV in order to use whichever components are connected to
the receiver via one or the other type.


I am not sure if this is what you mean, but I'll ask anyway: for
connecting the composite video between the TV and receiver, does it
matter if a single cable is used or if I just use the video (yellow)
connector of a r/w/y one? I don't have a "single" video cable; just
the r/w/y composite ones.

I hope this isn't too confusing? :-)

-Alan M.

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Old March 4th 07, 08:47 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Rich Clark
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"SilkBC" wrote in message
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On Mar 4, 12:16 am, "Rich Clark" wrote:


I have connected the the digital cable box outputs directly to the
inputs on the TV, and it works fine (used the r/w/y composite
connectors).

When I then connect the TV's video input (either the yellow composite
or the S-Video) to the receiver's video output (for the TV), I get
"unuseable signal" on the TV. I am not 100% sure if the S-Video
connector on the TV is input or output, as it is not clearly labelled
as an input or output type. To further confuse matters, it is
situated beside the audio outputs, though still not clearly labelled.


TVs often share the s-video and composite connectors between the same input
circuitry (there will be both a yellow jack and an s-video jack, and both
are "Video 1;" you can only connect one at a time). It would be unusual for
a TV to have an s-video output and no s-video input.

So that entire jack cluster -- a pair of analog audio inputs (L/R), a
composite video input, and an s-video input -- comprises one selectable
input (Video 1 or whatever your TV calls it).

I'm at a loss to explain why the Technics wouldn't pass the video signal as
long as (1) you have connected a working video signal to one of its
composite video inputs, and selected that input on the front panel; (2)
connected a composite video cable from the receiver's "monitor out" to the
TV's composite video input (without also connecting an s-video cable to the
same input); and (3) selected that input on the TV.

Keep in mind that this receiver probably can't convert between input
types -- you'll need separate composite and s-video connections between
the
receiver and the TV in order to use whichever components are connected to
the receiver via one or the other type.


I am not sure if this is what you mean, but I'll ask anyway: for
connecting the composite video between the TV and receiver, does it
matter if a single cable is used or if I just use the video (yellow)
connector of a r/w/y one? I don't have a "single" video cable; just
the r/w/y composite ones.


Only the yellow connector is video; red and white are audio. The red and
white audio jacks on your TV are (I'm surmising) for the input that can be
used by either the composite or the s-video jack, but not both at the same
time.

But what I meant was that the s-video in/out and the composite video in/out
on the receiver are completely separate. If you want to use s-video, you
must have an s-video connection from the source to the receiver to the TV.
If you want to use composite, you must have a composite connection from the
source to the receiver to the TV.

A source connected to the receiver via s-video will not be passed to the TV
via the composite connection, and vice-versa.

And if your TV, as I'm guessing, has only one input, you must choose s-video
or composite, and not use the other one. If it had two selectable inputs you
could use one for composite and one for s-video, and select between them
with the TV remote.

RichC


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Old March 5th 07, 01:21 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
SilkBC
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On Mar 4, 11:47 am, "Rich Clark" wrote:

I'm at a loss to explain why the Technics wouldn't pass the video signal as
long as (1) you have connected a working video signal to one of its
composite video inputs, and selected that input on the front panel; (2)
connected a composite video cable from the receiver's "monitor out" to the
TV's composite video input (without also connecting an s-video cable to the
same input); and (3) selected that input on the TV.


The above is correct. I am using composite input/outputs to get
things working, and will likely use S-Video in the near future.

So to confirm, I have:

- R/W/Y composite outputs of the digital cable box connected
directly to the R/W/Y composite inputs on the TV result in the digital
cable signal showing up on the TV. So no problem there; works as it
should. TV is in channel "00".
- Connected the R/W/Y composite outputs of the digital cable box to
the R/W/Y composite inputs on the back of the receiver
- Connected the Yellow connector of a R/W/Y cable to the "TV Out" on
the back of the receiver into the Yellow (video) input of the TV. No
video on the TV; just "Unusable Signal". TV is on the same channel
("00") as when the digital cable box is connected and working on the
TV

Assuming the "TV Out" jack on the receiver is not broken, the only
other thing I can think of is that I need to use a "stand-alone" video
cable, and that using the R/W/Y cable is somehow interfering with the
processing.

I will get my hands on one and give that a try, but other than that, I
am guessing that the "TV Out" jack is likely no longer working.

I received this receiver from my brother about a year and a half ago
when he moved out of the country and it was working at the point he
unplugged everything, but has been sitting idle since, so it is
possible that that something could have happened to it.

Thanks for your help in any case. I will hopefully get this sorted
out, or barring that, just get a new system.

-Alan M.

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Old March 6th 07, 06:46 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Rich Clark
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Thanks for your help in any case. I will hopefully get this sorted
out, or barring that, just get a new system.

-Alan M.


The receiver's inability to pass a video signal (especially a composite one)
is not a reason to throw it out, if it's otherwise working. You shouldn't be
using composite for anything but VHS anyway.

Have you done the above step-by-step process, but using s-video instead of
composite. The video quality will be significantly improved.

If it still doesn't work, you can buy an s-video switcher like this one for
under $30.

http://www.amazon.com/Recoton-SVS100.../dp/B000031WCH

The Technics 1050 is hardly state of the art, but it was a surprisingly good
performer in its price range.

R


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Old March 6th 07, 07:29 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Gary A. Edelstein
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On 4 Mar 2007 16:21:18 -0800, "SilkBC" wrote:

- Connected the Yellow connector of a R/W/Y cable to the "TV Out" on
the back of the receiver into the Yellow (video) input of the TV. No
video on the TV; just "Unusable Signal". TV is on the same channel
("00") as when the digital cable box is connected and working on the
TV

I seriously doubt the receiver doesn't pass video correctly and using
a separate composite cable or part of a set won't make a difference.

Make sure you have plugged the cable box composite vid out to the
correct input on the receiver that is matched to the audio input L/R
pair you are using. Don't connect it to the output on the receiver
near the audio input pair.

Make sure you are connecting the separate composite monitor out from
the receiver to the TV, not the video out from the connection next to
the audio pair. The monitor out should be labeled as such or similar.

Select the correct source on the receiver with the selector
button/switch or with the remote.

Refer to the receiver manual if you aren't sure where the connections
are.

Others have made it clear the receiver likely won't convert S-Vid to
composite and vice-versa; the connections must be made separately and
the TV may not be able to accept both inputs at the same time.

Gary E
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