Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?

"Oric" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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"Oric" wrote in message
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Its all fair and good for those geneii in the group who are highly
computer
literate, but most ov us users have basic knowledge (which is growing,
thanks to the kind people in this group)
File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms
and
Conditions...

Fine, if you'll stop harping on about Sky using your bandwidth.

Silly me, and there I was thinking that Newsgroups where a place to
share and help other in a spirit of camaraderie. A place where you can
air your concerns without fear of ridicule and somewhere where you can
genuinely learn.....but what do I know?
Apologies to all the nice friendly people who have helped me understand,
but the smart arses in this group make me want puke.


Slating Sky for doing something you had given them express permission to
do doesn`t exactly put you in a good place to complain about anyone elses
attitude does it?

Thank you for your help and support Simon. Your efforts to make a newbie
to the group feel comfortable and safe are greatly appreciated.


If you say "I erroneously thought Sky could be trusted", and "This data
drain was happening without my consent" then what do you expect, when you
are plainly wrong. The fact is that you agreed to something without
bothering to read it. What if the T&C you ignored stated that Sky could
charge you £50 a month without further notice for the service, as well as
giving them physical ownership of everything on your PC, including your
work, pictures etc. If you aren`t able to read and understand T&C then get
a grown up to help you, otherwise stop moaning.


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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:51:51 -0000, "Oric" wrote:

Andy, it could share files via carrier pigeon for all I care....but it
should only do it when I want it to. This data drain was happening without
my consent and definitely without me asking Sky for any film or content
download.

You need to pay more attention to instructions and terms and
conditions.

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Mike Henry wrote:

File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms and
Conditions...

Fine, if you'll stop harping on about Sky using your bandwidth.

I also think that Sky have deliberately made the way the service works
very unclear.

Not everyone using this will know what P2P is, or what bandwidth or
capping means. Or what effect it may have on their monthly ISP bill.

Anyone not knowing that wouldn't necessarily understand that the Sky
sharing programme will work all the time, in the background, even when
the user isn't downloading something.

Sky should have made all this much clearer.

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Jomtien wrote:

I also think that Sky have deliberately made the way the service works
very unclear.

Not everyone using this will know what P2P is, or what bandwidth or
capping means. Or what effect it may have on their monthly ISP bill.

Anyone not knowing that wouldn't necessarily understand that the Sky
sharing programme will work all the time, in the background, even when
the user isn't downloading something.

Sky should have made all this much clearer.

Agreed. And those that don't understand what P2P entails are unlikely to
notice their increased bandwidth consumption until they get their connection
pulled or traffic shaped by their ISP. Some ISP's now use a PAYG system
with a bundled amount of bandwidth included and additional usage charged.
Could be a nasty shock for some!

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On 28 Feb, 10:47, "Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com"
wrote:
Jomtien wrote:
I also think that Sky have deliberately made the way the service works
very unclear.

Not everyone using this will know what P2P is, or what bandwidth or
capping means. Or what effect it may have on their monthly ISP bill.

Anyone not knowing that wouldn't necessarily understand that the Sky
sharing programme will work all the time, in the background, even when
the user isn't downloading something.

Sky should have made all this much clearer.

Agreed. And those that don't understand what P2P entails are unlikely to
notice their increased bandwidth consumption until they get their connection
pulled or traffic shaped by their ISP. Some ISP's now use a PAYG system
with a bundled amount of bandwidth included and additional usage charged.
Could be a nasty shock for some!

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PocketGPSWorld -www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

I thought that only the download bandwidth was limited by most ISPs
(and not upload limit).

But...does the P2P mechanism used by Anytime get through most people's
firewall's and, if so, wouldn't most ISPs who implement traffic
shaping block or restrict such traffic. Are the packets encrypted?

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:14:14 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

I also think that Sky have deliberately made the way the service works
very unclear.

Not everyone using this will know what P2P is, or what bandwidth or
capping means. Or what effect it may have on their monthly ISP bill.

Anyone not knowing that wouldn't necessarily understand that the Sky
sharing programme will work all the time, in the background, even when
the user isn't downloading something.

Sky should have made all this much clearer.

Yes, perhaps they should have addressed all of the points you raise in
the service's terms and conditions.. no, wait, they already did!


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Zero Tolerance wrote:

Sky should have made all this much clearer.

Yes, perhaps they should have addressed all of the points you raise in
the service's terms and conditions.. no, wait, they already did!

That's like saying "tech support for the cost of a phone call" and
then, in very small print at the bottom, saying "calls cost
£5/minute".

Important information intrinsic to the functioning of a service,
and/or likely to have a major impact on other costs or usage, should
be advertised and explained in big letters, not in small print.

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No monies return'd. ;-)

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:20:01 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

That's like saying "tech support for the cost of a phone call" and
then, in very small print at the bottom, saying "calls cost
£5/minute".

That would be a breach of the law. However, that is a separate matter
from the inclusion of complicated information in the terms and
conditions of a service, which people are expressly told that they
should read and consent to.

If people do not read and consent anyway, it is then perhaps the very
definition of the words "a bit rich" to start complaining about how
something is happening without their consent, when in fact they very
much did give their consent but just did not trouble their pretty
little heads by actually reading what they were consenting to.
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