Need advice on ceiling speakers

First of all, I am not an audiophile seeking perfection. My budget is
about $600-$800.


I want to create a very nice, hidden home theater experience in my 2
bedroom condo. My living is not very large. About 12 feet wide by 15
feet long by 9 feet high. The room size is ok really but the layout is
terrible. The TV has to go in a corner. Basically, until I can afford
a flat screen plasma, I have to keep the tv where it is. Ergo,
furniture placement sucks! I am about to install recessed ceiling
lights and since I am going to be tearing things apart, I might as
well add speakers.

Can I get a decent home theater experience from installing 4 or 5
ceiling speakers and maybe putting a subwoofer on the floor? Can I use
it for music too?

I have a 46" rear projection HDTV and my current home theater consists
of just using the tv speakers. They have been fine until now. I do not
have any speakers or amps or receivers. I have a cable box, an HDTV
and a DVD player. I don't want or need to spend tons of money on this.
I am not out to get the greatest possible experience. I don't want to
buy a system and have speakers all over my living room. It won't work.
I really want to accomplish a decent experience from the ceiling if
possible. I don't want to use wall "bracket" mounted speakers either.
In-Wall might be ok.

Is it possible to get a balanced, surround sound type of feel with
good bass? Can I get this to work well for music? If the speakers are
placed right, can I make it enjoyable for all visitors and not just
for my leather chair spot? lol

Please provide links to products you are recommending if possible.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

In Wall would be better..


"Brian_SouthJersey" wrote in message
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First of all, I am not an audiophile seeking perfection. My budget is
about $600-$800.


I want to create a very nice, hidden home theater experience in my 2
bedroom condo. My living is not very large. About 12 feet wide by 15
feet long by 9 feet high. The room size is ok really but the layout is
terrible. The TV has to go in a corner. Basically, until I can afford
a flat screen plasma, I have to keep the tv where it is. Ergo,
furniture placement sucks! I am about to install recessed ceiling
lights and since I am going to be tearing things apart, I might as
well add speakers.

Can I get a decent home theater experience from installing 4 or 5
ceiling speakers and maybe putting a subwoofer on the floor? Can I use
it for music too?

I have a 46" rear projection HDTV and my current home theater consists
of just using the tv speakers. They have been fine until now. I do not
have any speakers or amps or receivers. I have a cable box, an HDTV
and a DVD player. I don't want or need to spend tons of money on this.
I am not out to get the greatest possible experience. I don't want to
buy a system and have speakers all over my living room. It won't work.
I really want to accomplish a decent experience from the ceiling if
possible. I don't want to use wall "bracket" mounted speakers either.
In-Wall might be ok.

Is it possible to get a balanced, surround sound type of feel with
good bass? Can I get this to work well for music? If the speakers are
placed right, can I make it enjoyable for all visitors and not just
for my leather chair spot? lol

Please provide links to products you are recommending if possible.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

On Feb 25, 8:01 pm, "C what I mean" no wrote:
In Wall would be better..

I would if I could but really can't. I only have 2 walls to work with
and they are consumed by large windows leaving me with tiny and
limited placement for speakers that don't cater for the seating
arrangements.

I have niles installed in my basement. I have 4 as rear channel speakers in
my 7.1 set-up, and 2 more over bar and 2 more over pool table. I've had no
problems or regrets.

http://www.nilesaudio.com/product_de...kers&catcdID=1




"Brian_SouthJersey" wrote in message
oups.com...
First of all, I am not an audiophile seeking perfection. My budget is
about $600-$800.


I want to create a very nice, hidden home theater experience in my 2
bedroom condo. My living is not very large. About 12 feet wide by 15
feet long by 9 feet high. The room size is ok really but the layout is
terrible. The TV has to go in a corner. Basically, until I can afford
a flat screen plasma, I have to keep the tv where it is. Ergo,
furniture placement sucks! I am about to install recessed ceiling
lights and since I am going to be tearing things apart, I might as
well add speakers.

Can I get a decent home theater experience from installing 4 or 5
ceiling speakers and maybe putting a subwoofer on the floor? Can I use
it for music too?

I have a 46" rear projection HDTV and my current home theater consists
of just using the tv speakers. They have been fine until now. I do not
have any speakers or amps or receivers. I have a cable box, an HDTV
and a DVD player. I don't want or need to spend tons of money on this.
I am not out to get the greatest possible experience. I don't want to
buy a system and have speakers all over my living room. It won't work.
I really want to accomplish a decent experience from the ceiling if
possible. I don't want to use wall "bracket" mounted speakers either.
In-Wall might be ok.

Is it possible to get a balanced, surround sound type of feel with
good bass? Can I get this to work well for music? If the speakers are
placed right, can I make it enjoyable for all visitors and not just
for my leather chair spot? lol

Please provide links to products you are recommending if possible.

Thanks in advance!!!!!

Speakers in the ceiling aren't where they need to be. You're ears don't
point up (unless you're dogboy!). With your space constraints, where do you
intend to put the display? Under the couch? The purpose of surround-
pardon my use of the generic term- is to spread the soundstage AROUND you,
to further envelop you in the viewing experience. Speakers in the ceiling
are just that- not SURROUND. That would be ABOVE. And your ears will hear
it from ABOVE. I would seriously consider putting the money into a decent
pair of bookshelf speakers and subwoofer. And be happy with it.

Another option- although I haven't witnessed firsthand- are the all-in-one
speakers that you place beneath your display, and thru the magic of digital
signal processing (DSP), produce a pseudo-surround field. But I doubt those
would perform well for music.

And the final alternative I would suggest would be a compact home theater in
a box. Check 'em out at your local Best Buy. Some of them don't sound too
bad, and with the right setup sound quite acceptable with the speakers at
ear-level. They don't take up much space, and actually put them in the
proper listening position.

Good luck.
David.

"Brian_SouthJersey" wrote in message
oups.com...
First of all, I am not an audiophile seeking perfection. My budget is
about $600-$800.


I want to create a very nice, hidden home theater experience in my 2
bedroom condo. My living is not very large. About 12 feet wide by 15
feet long by 9 feet high. The room size is ok really but the layout is
terrible. The TV has to go in a corner. Basically, until I can afford
a flat screen plasma, I have to keep the tv where it is. Ergo,
furniture placement sucks! I am about to install recessed ceiling
lights and since I am going to be tearing things apart, I might as
well add speakers.

Can I get a decent home theater experience from installing 4 or 5
ceiling speakers and maybe putting a subwoofer on the floor? Can I use
it for music too?

I have a 46" rear projection HDTV and my current home theater consists
of just using the tv speakers. They have been fine until now. I do not
have any speakers or amps or receivers. I have a cable box, an HDTV
and a DVD player. I don't want or need to spend tons of money on this.
I am not out to get the greatest possible experience. I don't want to
buy a system and have speakers all over my living room. It won't work.
I really want to accomplish a decent experience from the ceiling if
possible. I don't want to use wall "bracket" mounted speakers either.
In-Wall might be ok.

Is it possible to get a balanced, surround sound type of feel with
good bass? Can I get this to work well for music? If the speakers are
placed right, can I make it enjoyable for all visitors and not just
for my leather chair spot? lol

Please provide links to products you are recommending if possible.

Thanks in advance!!!!!