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Old February 22nd 07, 12:32 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Dick Sutton
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into it
and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into the
house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center in the
recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and the last
leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital cable/dvr box:
so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom tv only gets
analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would like
an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv that has
an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable (or am I
limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick


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Old February 22nd 07, 04:25 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

In article , rsutton43
@comcast.net says...
I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into it
and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into the
house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center in the
recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and the last
leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital cable/dvr box:
so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom tv only gets
analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would like
an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv that has
an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable (or am I
limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick



Yes you can. In fact, you will even receive the digital signals of
local stations that are on the cable. Your set may or may not be HD but
regardless you will be OK.
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Old February 22nd 07, 07:16 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

In article ,
says...


In article , rsutton43
says...
I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into it
and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into the
house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center in the
recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and the last
leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital cable/dvr box:
so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom tv only gets
analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would like
an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv that has
an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable (or am I
limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick



Yes you can. In fact, you will even receive the digital signals of
local stations that are on the cable. Your set may or may not be HD but
regardless you will be OK.

No he can't, he needs a QAM capable tuner to get the digital signals if they
are on local cable unencrypted.

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Old February 22nd 07, 07:25 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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In article ,
says...


I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into it
and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into the
house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center in the
recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and the last
leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital cable/dvr box:
so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom tv only gets
analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would like
an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv that has
an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable (or am I
limited to digital OTA stations only)?

Many LCD TVs these days still have a cable ready NTSC tuner, which is what you
would need to get analog unscrambled cable channels, like the current 19" set
gets. So, be sure to confirm the LCD set has that if you want those channels.

Sets that have a digital ATSC tuner will receive digital over the air
broadcasts with an antenna, including HD broadcasts. If the set can display
HD, you will see it as HD. The ATSC tuner will not get cable analog or digital
channels.

Sets that have a digital cable QAM capable tuner can receive unencrypted
digital cable channels, including any unencrypted HD chennels they may be
carrying. A QAM tuner will not get cable analog channels. Some systems will
carry some of the local HD channels unencrypted.

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Old February 22nd 07, 09:56 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote:
You wrote:

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax
into it and receive 'analog' channels?


No.

ATSC is for OTA (off-the-air with an antenna on your roof) HD.

QAM is for unencrypted local HD on your cable coax.

NTSC is for analog cable coax.


NTSC is also analog ota.

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Old February 22nd 07, 11:15 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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wrote in message
...
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote:
You wrote:

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax
into it and receive 'analog' channels?


No.

ATSC is for OTA (off-the-air with an antenna on your roof) HD.

QAM is for unencrypted local HD on your cable coax.

NTSC is for analog cable coax.


NTSC is also analog ota.

Chip

Please note that most sets that have ATSC tuners can receive OTA analog
NTSC, OTA digital ATSC, cable analog NTSC, and cable digital QAM.
Note I said most sets, so read the fine print before buying. The owners
manual should also enumerate the signals the tuner can receive.

David

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Old February 23rd 07, 01:04 AM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
Steven Toney
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

exactly right -- you have to ensure the set has all the proper tuner you
need..

my sony does ATSC, QAM, NTSC and has a cable card slot as well

Chances are very high that if the set has a cable card slot you can do any
combination you wish



"David" wrote in message
.. .

wrote in message
...
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote:
You wrote:

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax
into it and receive 'analog' channels?

No.

ATSC is for OTA (off-the-air with an antenna on your roof) HD.

QAM is for unencrypted local HD on your cable coax.

NTSC is for analog cable coax.


NTSC is also analog ota.

Chip

Please note that most sets that have ATSC tuners can receive OTA analog
NTSC, OTA digital ATSC, cable analog NTSC, and cable digital QAM.
Note I said most sets, so read the fine print before buying. The owners
manual should also enumerate the signals the tuner can receive.

David



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Old February 23rd 07, 04:22 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Thanks to all who replied.

It sounds like the atsc tuner is for digital and if I want analog stations
too, then I better get one that explicitly states that it can produce analog
cable stations. This is all rather too confusing. I even noticed that the
manufacturers will say anything on the box. Take for instance, I saw a 23"
item called a 23" digital tv except for the fact that there was no tuner
included at all! But it was still called a tv: I'd call that a monitor.

Oh well, nothings simple anymore. Again, thanks for the info and education.

Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Sutton"
Newsgroups: alt.home-theater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners


I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into
it and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into
the house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center
in the recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and
the last leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital
cable/dvr box: so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom
tv only gets analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't
want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would
like an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv
that has an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable
(or am I limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick





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"Dick Sutton" wrote in message
. ..
I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into
it and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into
the house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center
in the recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and
the last leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital
cable/dvr box: so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom
tv only gets analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't
want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would
like an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv
that has an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable
(or am I limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick




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Old February 23rd 07, 11:08 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

I think TV's are one of the hardest electronic items to shop for today

lot's to know if you wish to shop informed


"Dick Sutton" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks to all who replied.

It sounds like the atsc tuner is for digital and if I want analog stations
too, then I better get one that explicitly states that it can produce
analog
cable stations. This is all rather too confusing. I even noticed that
the
manufacturers will say anything on the box. Take for instance, I saw a
23"
item called a 23" digital tv except for the fact that there was no tuner
included at all! But it was still called a tv: I'd call that a monitor.

Oh well, nothings simple anymore. Again, thanks for the info and
education.

Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Sutton"
Newsgroups: alt.home-theater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners


I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into
it and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into
the house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center
in the recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet),
and the last leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a
digital cable/dvr box: so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The
bedroom tv only gets analog stations because I don't have a cable box
(and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would
like an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv
that has an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the
cable (or am I limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick





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"Dick Sutton" wrote in message
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I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into
it and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into
the house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center
in the recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet),
and the last leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a
digital cable/dvr box: so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The
bedroom tv only gets analog stations because I don't have a cable box
(and I don't want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would
like an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv
that has an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the
cable (or am I limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick






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Old February 25th 07, 06:20 PM posted to alt.home-theater.misc
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Default Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners

The problem is that Digital cable is NOT ATSC TV. Its only a digital
version of the NTSC signals that exiting stations output.

ATSC is the HDTV signals that many stations are broadcasting. HDTV
signals are also carried on some cable and sat TV systems at extra cost.

So to use your ATSC tuner, hook up a set of rabbit ears to it, one that
advertises compatibility with ATSC and HDTV signals

Dick Sutton wrote:
Thanks to all who replied.

It sounds like the atsc tuner is for digital and if I want analog stations
too, then I better get one that explicitly states that it can produce analog
cable stations. This is all rather too confusing. I even noticed that the
manufacturers will say anything on the box. Take for instance, I saw a 23"
item called a 23" digital tv except for the fact that there was no tuner
included at all! But it was still called a tv: I'd call that a monitor.

Oh well, nothings simple anymore. Again, thanks for the info and education.

Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Sutton"
Newsgroups: alt.home-theater.misc
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: Totally Confused About ATSC Tuners



I ask three different people, I get three different answers.

If I have a tv with and atsc tuner, can I plug my cable company coax into
it and receive 'analog' channels?

My situation is this, I have a cable splitter where the cable comes into
the house. One leg of the splitter goes to the home entertainment center
in the recroom, another leg goes to the computer (broadband internet), and
the last leg goes up to the master bedroom. The recroom has a digital
cable/dvr box: so I get all analog & digital stations on it. The bedroom
tv only gets analog stations because I don't have a cable box (and I don't
want one).

Currently, I have a standard 19" tube tv in the bedroom. My wife would
like an LCD version so that it takes up less room. If I but an LCD tv
that has an atsc tuner, can I still get the analog stations from the cable
(or am I limited to digital OTA stations only)?

My google'ing hasn't helped out. I know someone here can educate me...

Dick







 




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