we're not all deaf

Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.

iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.


What a moronic thing to say - surely if the whole world revolved around
minorities then ALL programmes would have signing and subtitling. Idiot.

iz0nlee wrote:

Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.

Well, as annoying as it can be tuning in and seeing someone lodged
firmly over part of the screen I have seen Sky's response to this
question in a recent magazine. Their view is that these are always
programs and films shown more than once, so you'll just have to make
sure you find one without the sign language. They also stated that
deaf viewers prefer sign language to subtitles.
There are no plans to make them switchable.
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Paul Heslop wrote:
iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.

Well, as annoying as it can be tuning in and seeing someone lodged
firmly over part of the screen I have seen Sky's response to this
question in a recent magazine. Their view is that these are always
programs and films shown more than once, so you'll just have to make
sure you find one without the sign language. They also stated that
deaf viewers prefer sign language to subtitles.
There are no plans to make them switchable.

Sounds like an excuse to repeat a program/film again to me!

Mike

Mike wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:
iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.

Well, as annoying as it can be tuning in and seeing someone lodged
firmly over part of the screen I have seen Sky's response to this
question in a recent magazine. Their view is that these are always
programs and films shown more than once, so you'll just have to make
sure you find one without the sign language. They also stated that
deaf viewers prefer sign language to subtitles.
There are no plans to make them switchable.

Sounds like an excuse to repeat a program/film again to me!

Mike

they don't need excuses to do THAT :O)

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Edster wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote in message

Their view is that these are always
programs and films shown more than once, so you'll just have to make
sure you find one without the sign language

Its a pity they can't do the same with their adverts for HD equipment
and whatever other ****e they want us to watch.

We're pretty much suckered aren't we? We pay a lot for the service,
then we have to watch adverts, then we have to put up with relentless
sky drivel (the biggest heap of which is the infamous simpsons
episode) and yet here we all are.

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iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and age
the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote. An
earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying is
that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand signals
and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be on a
separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole world
seems to revolve around minorities.


I think it is about time that we have sign on tv channels, and do think
it should be a prerequisite of all recorded tv shows to have them
signed, I do also agree that it should be switchable, the technology is
there it should be used, I would not turn away if there was sign unless
it is the BBC, as they for some strange reason decide to make the
picture smaller shove it over to the left side and stick a blue border
on the right.

Eddy

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Edster wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote in message

Edster wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote in message

Their view is that these are always
programs and films shown more than once, so you'll just have to make
sure you find one without the sign language

Its a pity they can't do the same with their adverts for HD equipment
and whatever other ****e they want us to watch.

We're pretty much suckered aren't we? We pay a lot for the service,
then we have to watch adverts, then we have to put up with relentless
sky drivel (the biggest heap of which is the infamous simpsons
episode) and yet here we all are.

I heard Telewest were getting screwed over the Sky channels and might
be dropping them. If they replace them with a few channels that don't
have ****e all over the screen while you're trying to watch something
I'll switch to them straight away. Content doesn't matter so much, I
can adapt to most things, I just want to be left in peace to watch TV.
It's coming to something when the only way you can do that is by
downloading copies of American broadcasts. We used to laugh at how
trashy American TV is, but I bet it's them that are laughing at us
now.

I'm not sure how many channels exist which don't have trash all over
the screen. The biggest load of trash appearing to be FAMETV! pure
crap. Attempting to be sumo tv mixed with youtube but just awful.
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:05:21 +0000, Eddy
wrote:

I think it is about time that we have sign on tv channels, and do think
it should be a prerequisite of all recorded tv shows to have them
signed, I do also agree that it should be switchable, the technology is
there it should be used, I would not turn away if there was sign unless
it is the BBC, as they for some strange reason decide to make the
picture smaller shove it over to the left side and stick a blue border
on the right.

I would have thought that it was technically possible to have a way
for the viewer to remove the signing. That way, far more programming
could then be signed.

My youngest child's disability is such that he uses limited signing
but the TV signing is of no use to him. Of far greater use is
CBeebies's "Something Special" programme, a work of genius by the BBC
and an example of public service broadcasting at its very best.
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:23:16 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

They also stated that
deaf viewers prefer sign language to subtitles.

That's interesting because that's not what deaf viewers say,
according to Ofcom's research.

(Then again, Ofcom require the channels to broadcast sign language
just the same..)
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